[84406] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: Klingon WOTD: ngIl (verb)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Apr 14 15:04:45 2008
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:03:17 -0500
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
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> > >This is the Klingon Word Of The Day for Saturday, April 12, 2008.
> > >
> > >Klingon word: ngIl
> > >Part of Speech: verb
> > >Definition: dare
Voragh:
> > Used in canon:
> >
> > qagh, ro'qegh'Iwchab, targh tIq Sop 'e' lungIl Humanpu' puS
> > Few humans dare to eat gagh, rokeg blood pie, or heart of targ. S21
Notice that {joq} "and/or" or {ghap} "either/or" is omitted. Perhaps
because these are merely examples of Klingon foods that "few humans dare to
eat" - i.e. gagh, rokeg blood pie, heart of targ, etc., etc. - and not
three actual dishes to choose from on the table?
lay'tel SIvten:
>I'd forgotten this example.
>I assumed that {ngIl} meant 'dare' in the sense of 'challenge':
>
> I dare you to eat gagh, rokeg blood pie, or heart of targ!
?? qagh, ro'qegh'Iwchab, targh tIq DaSop 'e' qangIl.
>Is there any reason not to use {ngIl} like this?
Since S21 is our only example of {ngIl}, I don't know. I'm also stumbling
over the "I dare/challenge you to X". Have we ever seen the "prefix trick"
used with {'e'}? I can't think of an example off the top of my head. If
we can't, we can always rephrase:
qagh, ro'qegh'Iwchab, targh tIq (joq) yISop; qangIl!
qagh, ro'qegh'Iwchab, targh tIq (joq) yISop; qaqaD!
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
