[84290] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: Klingon phonology in regular expressions
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Doq)
Tue Mar 25 14:25:28 2008
From: Doq <doq@embarqmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
In-Reply-To: <47E930EB.6020106@trimboli.name>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:37:17 -0400
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
I'm going to take a wild guess here.
Maybe we are asking the wrong question. Yes, we know that {-oy} is a
special suffix that can confuse meaning in words like {jIloy}, which
can be either mean "dear neighbor" or "I guess".
Meanwhile, these two very different words (a prefixed verb or a
suffixed noun) are pronounced identically, and the dialect affects
pronunciation, not meaning.
We spell according to pronunciation, not meaning.
In other words, are you sure that a final H followed by {-oy} would be
pronounced like a final H?
We know that {-oy} is weird in ta' Hol. Might it also be weird in
Morskan in ways we haven't yet imagined?
Doq
On Mar 25, 2008, at 1:05 PM, David Trimboli wrote:
> I've managed to convert ta' Hol to Morskan successfully, with the
> exception of the suffix -oy. The key is that, except for words with -
> oy,
> any consonant followed by a vowel must be the start of a syllable. For
> anyone interested, here's how to do it with regular expression
> matches.
>
>
> First pass:
>
> match: H(?=a|e|I|o|u)
> replacement: h
>
> match: tlh(?=a|e|I|o|u)
> replacement: ghl
>
> Second pass:
>
> match: tlh
> replacement: ts
>
> match: H
> replacement:
>
> Third pass:
>
> match: Q(?=a|e|I|o|u)
> replacement: H
>
> I haven't figured out yet how to match final tlh or H followed by -oy
> without confusing the detection of initial tlh or H. Any suggestions
> on
> how to detect the -oy suffix instead of a word with oy in it?
>
> --
> SuStel
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