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Re: Suggestions for Marc Okrand: homophones

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Wed May 12 23:59:55 1993

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From: mark <mark@dragonsys.COM>
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@village.boston.ma.us>
Date: Wed, 12 May 93 17:05:54 EST


A.APPLEYARD and his analyzer had some trouble with some of my
Klingon.

'aDonay, Datu'lu''a'? qatu'laH'a'?
     God, do you exist?  Can I find you?

I explicitly glossed 'aDonay as a Klingonization of (Hebrew)
"Adonai", meaning literally 'Lord': it is used as a quasi-name
for God.

Datu'lu''a' : 'do you exist?' or 'is there a you? are you there?'
Literally, 'does one find you?'  See p. 39.

qatu'laH'a' : 'can I find you?'

Translation into good English cannot capture the parallel uses of lu', which is
why I didn't want to translate it.

(Now quoting A.APPLEYARD: first my tagline, then the output of his analyzer:)
     -------------
                 nubejtaHchugh jubwI', HaghtaHbej
---- * nubejtaHchugh ----- PP:[he|it|they]/us V:watch VS7:continuous VS9:if
---- jubwI' ----- V:be_immortal VS9:[agent|instrument]
---- , HaghtaHbej ----- V:laugh VS7:continuous VS6:undoubtedly
  /*** suffixes in wrong order ***/
     ---------- (end of quoted material)

The analyzer caught my error in HaghtaHbej.  I don't know what the asterisk
means in front of nubejtaHchugh; in linguistic usage I would expect it to flag
an ungrammatical or unattested form, but neither I nor the analyzer finds an
error in this word.  The tagline is meant to mean approximately "If the gods
are watching us, they must be laughing."

A.APPLEYARD, I would like to put together a semantic index to the Klingon
vocabulary.  Would you be willing to send me your vocabulary file?

- marqem

                         Mark A. Mandel 
    Dragon Systems, Inc. : speech recognition : +1 617 965-5200 
  320 Nevada St. :  Newton, Mass. 02160, USA : mark@dragonsys.com


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