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Re: Specifying distance traveled (was Art of War Chp. 2 (section 1/3))

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alan Anderson)
Wed Jan 9 21:35:27 2008

In-Reply-To: <47855DCA.7080609@trimboli.name>
From: Alan Anderson <aranders@insightbb.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 21:32:35 -0500
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org

On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:50 PM, David Trimboli wrote:

> Here's what I think is a pretty simple example of a topic in use:
>
>     Qel'e' SID vor ghaH
>     As for the doctor, he cured the patient.


It's simple, yes, but is it correct?  The topic suffix doesn't move  
the subject of the sentence to the front.  I can't see expressing the  
idea as anything but {SID vor Qel'e'}.  (Maybe you can supply  
supporting context that would make this example seem less broken, but  
it would probably cease to be simple at that point.)



The whole idea of "header topics" makes me uneasy anyway.  {-'e'} is  
a syntactic marker, identifying the role of the noun in a sentence.   
Most of the discussion of putting it on a "header" noun uses examples  
where that noun doesn't really *have* a clear role in the sentence --  
and saying "the role is the _topic_" doesn't help me.  Most of the  
time I see it used here, it's more the "topic of conversation" rather  
than anything to do with the action of the sentence.  The one  
relevant canon example I can think of is a comparative construction,  
which doesn't follow the regular rules of word order in the first  
place, making it incompletely suitable as a pattern for general usage.



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