[776] in tlhIngan-Hol
"movie"mey, etc. (was: RE: RESENT: Bounced Mail III)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Fri May 7 05:00:56 1993
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From: erich@bush.cs.tamu.edu (Erich Schneider)
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Date: Fri, 7 May 93 00:47:30 CDT
In-Reply-To: trI'Qal's message of 06 May 1993 22:17:29 -0400 (EDT) <01GXVD5N54C
Not to seem like a nit-picker, but...
It's my understanding (from TKD) that "'e'" as a pronoun is only used
to refer to previous sentences when the verb is not intended to be
impersonal. In this, TKD is sowing a bit of confusion when it blithely
lists "'e'" and "net" as being pronouns meaning "that". To my
knowledge, Klingon lacks such a pronoun, and one must use another
expression. I suppose "Dochvam" and "Dochvetlh", "this thing" and
"that thing", will do in a pinch. (E.g., from TKD, "Dochvetlh
vItlhutlhlaHbe'", "I can't drink that.")
Thus the following from a recent message of trI'Qal:
>'e'mo' not jIH chotlhIjnIS SoH!
If the intended meaning was "You never have to apologize to me for
that!", and assuming the "SoH" is there to make the statement
emphatic, this should probably be more like:
vangghachvetlhmo' not jIHvaD bItlhIjnIS SoH!
"You never need to apologize to me because of that action!"
("jIHvaD" because "apologize" is intransitive.)
and (after an explanation):
>mu'meywIj QIj'a' 'e'?
for, I assume, "Does that explain my words?" might be done as
mu'meywIj QIj'a' mu'meyvam?
or
mu'meyvetlh QIj'a' mu'meyvam?
-QumpIn 'avrIn
