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Re: "movie"mey

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Tue May 4 18:43:29 1993

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From: mark <mark@dragonsys.COM>
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Date: Tue, 04 May 93 16:06:06 EST


'o'Daq 'oHbogh ghItlh HoD Qanqor:

> tlhIngan ghaH James Brown'e' 'e' teHnISba' tera'ngan Hol
> jatlhbe'bejmo'.

I interpret this as "It is obviously true that James Brown is a
Klingon because he certainly isn't speaking a Terran(s')
language."  But then "tlhIngan ghaH James Brown'e'" is the
subject of "teHnISba'", and should follow it.  I raised this
question once -- how can we make a sentence (a clause) be the
subject of another sentence? -- and I don't think there was a
way.  HoD, qay''a' Dochvam?

bIngvetlhDaq ghItlh:

> 'ej HIvje' lughbe' lulo' tlhInganpu' 'e' lutIvqu' net Sov.

If I've got it right (I haven't seen the movie), that means "And
it's (well)known that Klingons really enjoy using the wrong
glass." 'a qay' latlh: "The rover -qu' 'emphatic' may follow
verbs functioning adjectivally. ...  If a Type 5 noun suffix is
used, it follows the verb, which, when used to modify the noun in
this way, can have no other suffix except the rover -qu'
'emphatic'." (4.4) Unless "in this way" refers to the presence of
a Type 5 suffix, which doesn't make much sense as a reading of
the English, it looks unfortunately as if a verb used
adjectivally -- in this case, lugh(be') -- can't take any suffix
except -qu' and/or a Type 5.

vaj, nuq ghu'?

- marqem

                         Mark A. Mandel 
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