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error?: 'have' used as verb auxiliary

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Thu Apr 29 08:30:42 1993

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From: A.APPLEYARD@fs1.mt.umist.ac.uk
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@village.boston.ma.us>
Date: 29 Apr 93 11:27:17 GMT


  On Mon 26 Apr 93 18:59:26 -0400 Captain Krankor wrote (Subject: Re: HablI'
toDSaH!):-

 > ... (about movie films) ...
Connery vIparHa' je jIH.  "The Hunt for Red October" Daleghpu''a'?
  /* I also like Connery. Have you seen "The Hunt for Red October"?
vImuSHa'.  <ghaj> Eli; tugh mabejqa'nIS!
  /* I like it. Eli <has>; soon we must watch it again!
---- * vImuSHa' = PP:I/[he|it|them] V:hate VSR:undo
---- . ghaj = V:have
---- Eli ----
---- ; tugh = A:soon
---- mabejqa'nIS = # PP:we/- V:watch VS3:[do_again|resume] VS2:need
  /** suffixes in wrong order **/

  But `ghaj` = "have" as "possess/hold legally or physically". "Eli has" here
is short for "Eli has seen it": `leghpu' Eli`. Use of "have" as a verb
auxiliary in Germanic languages (including English) arose from e.g. "I have a
killed wolf" (habeo lupum occisum, targh HoHlu'bogh vighaj), via a "guilty
till proved otherwise" assumption that the subject of "to have" did the action
of the participle applied to the corpus-delictum mentioned in the sentence, to
the present meaning of the perfect tense, "I have killed a wolf", long ago
before the Anglo-Saxons brought early English to England.

  (spelling: <Sean> Connery. Irish Gaelic spelling rule.)
 

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