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'e' in relative clauses with 2 nouns in

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Wed Apr 21 21:49:21 1993

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> From: Captain Krankor <krankor@codex.prds.cdx.mot.com>
> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 16:04:47 -0400

  > ... questions about clauses ... discussed here before ... I have the
article online if anyone can't get at HolQeD. Again, this is the old `yaS'e'
qIppu'bogh HoD` issue.
  (a) I emailed HolQeD's editorial email address but he hasn't replied yet.
  (b) Please email the article to me.
  (c) I feel that distinguishing which noun in `qama' leghpu'bogh yaS` is the
antecedent can not be done by `'e'`, as I can easily construct all four
combinations of either noun being antecedent or emphasized:-
  `qama' leghpu'bogh yaS       the officer who saw the prisoner      OR
                               the prisoner who the officer saw

  `qama''e' leghpu'bogh yaS    the <officer> who saw the prisoner
                               (= not someone else who saw the prisoner)   OR
                               the prisoner who the <officer> saw
                               (= not another prisoner who someone else saw)

  `qama' leghpu'bogh yaS'e'    the officer who saw the <prisoner>
                               (= not another officer who saw someone else) OR
                               the <prisoner> who the officer saw
                               (= not someone else who the officer saw)

  > the tape does seem to think that it's Qo'noS ...
  Has anyone made a list yet of all of any vocabulary and grammatical points
that are on the tape but not in the book?

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