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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Thu Apr 15 19:41:34 1993
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From: Mark_Nudelman@go.com
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@village.boston.ma.us>
Date: 15 Apr 93 14:02
Elias Israel writes:
No, you are correct. He meant to say "SoHvaD jIjatlh." However, his
correction is itself questionable. While the translation he gives is
technically correct, the sentence he was correcting might also be
correct. As Captain Krankor has already discussed at length, there is
reason to suspect that pronomial prefixes can be used to indicate
indirect objects in some cases. I'll leave him to re-iterate his
proof of this if he cares to.
Yes, I found it interesting that Will's objection to
"qajatlh" seemed to be contradicted by Captain Krankor's
article on Objects in the same issue of HolQeD. I'm still
personally uneasy with this issue; it seems to me that the
"object" of a given verb ought to stay the same, and not be
derived from context or from common-sense. But perhaps my
perception is colored by some exposure to Loglan, where
every verb has a fixed "object" (or set of objects), and
"common-sense" is never used to determine meaning. What if,
to invent an example in the spirit of Loglan, I'm addressing
a WORD rather than a person, and I really want to say "I
speak you"? Of course, English and all other natural
languages are full of examples where "nonsensical"
statements like this cannot be expressed clearly; it is not
surprising that Klingon has the same limitations. It would
be rather surprising if it WERE a completely logical
language like Loglan.
Naturally, I have plenty of objections to Will Martin's article. I'm
preparing a response for submission to HolQeD.
I look forward to reading it!
--nachHegh
Mark_Nudelman@go.com
