[27] in tlhIngan-Hol
vavma' pab je
dcctdw@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (dcctdw@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Sun Feb 16 15:16:46 1992
From: Michael Everson <ima.ima.isc.com!ICNUCEVM.CNUCE.CNR.IT!MEVERC95%IRLEARN.UCD.IE@village.boston.ma.us>
To: tlhIngan Hol jatlhwI' <tlhIngan-Hol@IMA.ISC.COM>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 23:48:14 GMT
vavma', < father-our-(who speaks)
< vav ma'
Hov Dache'taH: < stars you-them-rule-continuously
< Hov Da che' taH
reH ponglIj batlhlu'taH. < always name-your honours-one-continuously
< reH pong lIj batlh lu' taH
Dat wo'lIj tu'lu'taH: < everywhere empire-your finds-one-continuously
< Dat wo' lIj tu' lu' taH
ra'lIj loblu'taH. < orders-your obeys-one-continuously
< ra' lIj lob lu' taH
yuQDaq je Hov wo'Daq je. < planet-on and stars' empire-in and
< yuQ Daq 'ej Hov wo'Daq
jajvam nay'maj ghonobneS. < day-this dish-our us!-give-please
< jaj vam nay' maj gho nob neS
yemmaj tIHupQo'neS < sin-our them!-punish-don't-please
< yem maj tI Hup Qo' neS
wI'wemlu' 'ach maHupbe'. < us-violates-one but we-it-punish-not
< wI' wem lu' 'ach ma Hup be'
ghotlhu'moHQo'neS, < us!-tempted-cause-don't-please
< gho tlhu' moH Qo' neS
'ach Doch mIghqu'vo' < but things evil-very-from us!-protect-contin-please
ghoQantaHneS. < 'ach Doch mIgh qu' vo' gho Qan taH neS
wo'lIj je HoSlIj je < empire-your and strength-your and
< wo' lIj je HoS lIj je
pong noylIj je DaghajtaH: < name famous-your and you-them-possess-continuously
pong noy lIj je Da ghaj taH
DaH poHpu' poHDaq je. < now time-plural's time-in and
< DaH poH pu' poH Daq je
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Beginners: remember, word order is Object-Verb-Subject. Adjectives are
really verbs, but as phrases can take noun endings: Doch mIghqu'vo'
'from things that are very evil'.
Note that there are a number of changes in this text from the one I posted
previously. This was written more than a year ago, when I thought I was
the only one..... {{:-) My chief error was in the use of lI' and ma' for
lIj and maj; also I had Sop, a verb, for food, rather than nay' 'dish'
(I wondered about using Somraw 'muscle' for 'meat' but I thought it
too specific.
About 'Heaven': I don't think the Klingons look at things the way we do,
they're more romantic realists whereas we are more realistic romantics.
(As species go.) Note however the contrast of "Hov Dache'taH" 'you rule
the stars' and "yuQDaq je Hov wo'Daq je" 'both on-planet and in the
empire of stars'; in the first place Klingons seem to relate more easily
to what a person does (Hov che'taH) than where he is (Hov wo'Daq SoH),
and in the second place, stars are considered differently than simply
empty space (Hov vs. logh).
Note that je is used somewhat more in this text than in spoken Klingon;
that is for rhythmic, elevated style.
VarSan