[2362] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: Okrand on glottal stops
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Fri Dec 17 11:45:57 1993
Reply-To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@klingon.East.Sun.COM>
From: Mark Reed <Mark.Reed@cad.gatech.edu>
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@klingon.East.Sun.COM>
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 11:42:47 -0500 (EST)
In-Reply-To: <9312162352.AA09635@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU> from "Will Martin" at
Dec 16, 93 06:52:20 pm
\ THIS example from PK is not all that impressive. At best, it is
\confusedly stated, if it is supposed to illustrate opening glottal stops at
\all, which is not clear, since it is not clear if he is talking about one
\word or two, or if he is talking about the explicit separation of words in
\general, or just about the pronunciation of a glottal stop as it begins a
\word. I, for one, would differently pronounce {bang chu'} [new love] and
\{bangchu'} [he loved her perfectly], yet the pause between the two words of
\the first example has nothing to do with a glottal stop.
Not to invalidate your point, but I felt a need to make this nit-pick
about your example: bang is *not* a verb. You cannot infer
a verb from a noun. We've discussed this on here before, and I think that
we're in general agreement to use "muSHa'" for "to love", so "He loved her
perfectly" would be "muSHa'chu'".
\
\ How's that for an entry in the HolQeD contest?
\
\ {bang chu' taH ghaH} [He endures new love]
\ {bangchu'taH ghaH} [He always loves perfectly]
Since "bang" isn't a verb, the entry is ungrammatical. Sorry.
-marqoS
