[2048] in tlhIngan-Hol
Terran facsimile for {-Ha'}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Wed Nov 17 15:59:52 1993
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From: DSTRADER@delphi.com
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@klingon.East.Sun.COM>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 15:51:35 -0400 (EDT)
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I remember not too long ago _SOMEONE_ on this list posted a message
on the discussion of plurals and how he/she/it had found it useful
to refer to the {-pu'} suffixes as the SouthernUnitedStates colloquialism
-folk as a facsimile to that suffix. E.g., Klingon-folk, Vulcan-folk,
Yankee-folk, etc., etc., etc...
Anyways, along those lines of thinking, another one of these facsimiles
came to me. It corresponds with the bit of discussion that's been going
on about rovers/negating suffixes. The facsimile I've come up with is
thinking of {-Ha'} in terms of the somewhat archaic English adverb "ill".
It survives in common use in very few instances, such as "ill-gotten
gains". But the meaning closer to what I was thinking of ran along the
meaning of a phrase like "ill afford". "The student of Klingon can ill
afford to loan out TKD to everyone fanatic trekkie who will look at page
1 and lose interest and then forget to return it until a month later
when you come back asking about it only to find its been kicked around
and has a number of severed pages, and a torn cover." Phew! That's
a personal experience of mine. Anyways, I hope this subtly obscure
interpretation of "ill" can be understood. Think of {lobHa'}. Why
not think of in English as "ill-obey". {jatlhHa'} comes out "ill-speak".
This might describe the "wrongly" aspect of {-Ha'}. But it fails to
correspond very well to its antonym marker status. ({mIpHa'} -> "ill-rich".
I don't think so. (Remember being not rich and being poor are not anything
the same)).
Just some ideas to kick around in the list discussion...
Guido#1, O Grand, Alpowerful, Omniscient Leader of All Guidos
Thank ewe!
