[2015] in tlhIngan-Hol
lo'laHbogh moQ boghvaD Ha'DIbaH
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Mon Nov 15 11:05:19 1993
Reply-To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@klingon.East.Sun.COM>
From: shoulson@ctr.columbia.edu (Mark E. Shoulson)
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@klingon.East.Sun.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 10:42:27 -0500
In-Reply-To: "Matthew Whiteacre"'s message of Sat, 13 Nov 93 21:39:48 CDT <220.
mmw8970@[128.194.3.85]_POPMail/PC_3.2.2>
>From: "Matthew Whiteacre" <mmw8970@ZEUS.TAMU.EDU>
>Date: Sat, 13 Nov 93 21:39:48 CDT
Well, you did ask for feedback from unofficial folks (not that that's
really been stopping me)
>Do' Ha'DIbaH ghaj loD be'nalDaj je
"Luckily, a man and his wife had an animal"
Did you mean they had a lucky animal? That would be "Ha'DIbaH Do'". On
the flip side, the way you have it can still mean what you want.
>lo'laHbogh moQ boghvaD nob
What is {boghvaD}? {bogh} is "be born", a verb, and "-vaD" is a noun
suffix. I'm confused. Ooooh... Do you mean "gave birth to..."? That's an
English idiom, I'm afraid. Maybe {lo'laHbogh moQ boghmoH} (or "moQ lo'laH
boghmoH")? Hmmm.... I'd almost expect {boghmoH} to mean more like "beget"
than "bear" (i.e. sire or father, not give birth).
>Ha'DIbaH luHoHbogh Huch lulellaH 'e' luQub
Change the "-bogh" to "-chugh" and you've really got something.
>vaj SuqmeH Huch Hoch HoH loD be'nalDaj je qur
Took me a sec to work out the placement of {qur}, but you're right.
However, the {Huch Hoch} should be before the {SuqmeH} for proper
word-order.
>Ha'DIbaH poS 'ej pImbe' Ha'DIbaH
I guess that's the understandable, though it leaves one to wonder what it
wasn't different from and so on. The one who should really give you some
ideas is Nick Nicholas, who has translated some of Aesop's Fables into
lojban from the Greek, and would have a good idea of what Aesop was saying.
>'IQqu' loD be'nalDaj je
>Ha'DIbaH HoHmo' mIpHa'
>tuvchugh Huch ghaj
*maybe* {lughaj}, but it works okay as is.
~mark
