[1980] in tlhIngan-Hol
Power Klingon
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Wed Nov 10 10:56:16 1993
Reply-To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@klingon.East.Sun.COM>
From: shoulson@ctr.columbia.edu (Mark E. Shoulson)
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@klingon.East.Sun.COM>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 10:52:15 -0500
In-Reply-To: Will Martin's message of Wed, 10 Nov 93 09:14:58 EST <9311101415.A
A26628@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU>
>From: Will Martin <whm2m@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 09:14:58 EST
>On Nov 10, 8:11am, Nick Nicholas wrote:
>> Subject: Re: Power Klingon
>...
>> #There's also "Don't lick my forehead" which sounds a lot like "QuchwIj
>> #DroSQo'", which represents, if I hear aright, an
>> #innovation in Klingon words, as "?DroSQo'" starts with a consonant
>> #cluster.
>>
>> I suspected when I read this, and wasn't disconfirmed on listening, that
>> the word is probably DeroSQo' (cf. tera'ngan, pronounced tra'ngan)
>>
>I wonder if it might be ghroSQo', since there is only one allowed
>consonant cluster in a Klingon syllable and it does involve the "r", and
>that's "ghr". TKD has no words beginning with that cluster, though it does
>often end syllables with it, so maybe this would be our first example of it
>LEADING a syllable? I have not checked the tape, but if I listen to myself
>say "DroSQo'" and "ghroSQo'", I could understand someone confusing the two,
>if they didn't understand that "DroSQo'" violates basic Klingon morphology
>(if that's the word).
Actually, there are three consonant clusters that have so far been found
within Klingon syllables: "y'", "w'", and "rgh". No others have been
attested yet, and those are always at the ends of syllables. No previously
known word (or syllable) ends in "ghr"; where did you get that from? Some
end in "rgh", but that's something altogether different.
Personally, I'd find "ghroS" just as unsettling as "DroS"; both would be
starting with a consonant cluster which is something we've never seen
before.
Besides, if you *do* listen to the tape, it's very definitely not "ghroS".
You can hear the click of the "D" very clearly.
~mark
