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Re: relative clauses (more)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Tue Aug 24 00:01:22 1993

Reply-To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@village.boston.ma.us>
From: trI'Qal <DOBELBOWER%OPUS@cutter.mco.edu>
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@village.boston.ma.us>
Date: 23 Aug 1993 22:49:43 -0400 (EDT)
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jatlhpu' "Jacques Guy":

>Now for a last piece of (perhaps heretical) thought: ambiguity does
>not really bother me. [..omitted for brevity..]

Me, either.  Personally, I find your thoughts not only not heretical, but I 
agree with them.  I actually see nothing ambiguous with *most* translations 
involving relative clauses without using "-'e'".

>More heretical tought to conclude (am I turning into a thloqo'?):
>why not accept that Klingon is not like English, and do away with
>'e' for disambiguation purposes? All the more so that 'e', taking
>the same slot as vo', mo', etc. we're still in the poo when we
>want to translate "the room from which..., the reason for which...,
>etc."

Absolutely!


>(Don't pay too much attention to those ramblings. They're only
>my morning brain-stretching exercises)

Sorry, I pay at least a cursory attention to anything that comes through this 
list.  I find all of this (even if I never say anything!) quite intriging... so
 
your rambles just became my latest food for thought.

Hol'e' is truly a beautiful language, when you stop thinking in terran terms.  
for example, there was much debate over the translation of "to be or not to 
be."  A good suggestion was: yIn pagh Hegh.  Personally, I find the most 
elegant tranlation to be: yIn pagh yInHa'.

NOTE:  I confess to being highly opinionated.  Normally, I try to keep my 
postings a bit less so, but in this case... well, you can always delete my 
post. :)  Please bear in mind that this is JIMN-S-HO. {{;)


--HoD trI'Qal, tlhwD "lIy So'"




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