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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] 'Iv ghaH baHwI''e'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID)
Thu Mar 21 06:17:24 2019
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From: "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 11:07:34 +0100
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 at 10:43, Daniel Dadap <daniel@dadap.net> wrote:
> (As an aside, I was originally going to write {jatmeyna'} in the sentence
> above, but that violates suffix order. {jatna'mey} didn=E2=80=99t seem qu=
ite right,
> since {jatmey} is the name of the thing, and is already a grammar
> violation, albeit an intentional one. I=E2=80=99m not talking about actua=
l tongues
> here; I=E2=80=99m talking about something named after tongues. Where woul=
d I put a
> type one or two noun suffix to modify {jatmey}, when reverting to the KLI
> publication that goes by that name?)
>
I would consider {jatmey} to be lexicalised as a name, like {qepHom'a'} for
the name of the event in Saarbr=C3=BCcken. However, as {-na'} is type 3 and
{-mey} is type 2, there isn't any problem with {jatmeyna'}. As for an
intervening type 1 suffix, I can't think of any context in which it would
make sense to say {jat'a'mey} or {jatHommey} or {jatoymey}, in reference to
the publication named {jatmey}.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 =
at 10:43, Daniel Dadap <<a href=3D"mailto:daniel@dadap.net">daniel@dadap=
.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex">(As an aside, I was originally going to write {jatmeyna'} in the se=
ntence above, but that violates suffix order. {jatna'mey} didn=E2=80=99=
t seem quite right, since {jatmey} is the name of the thing, and is already=
a grammar violation, albeit an intentional one. I=E2=80=99m not talking ab=
out actual tongues here; I=E2=80=99m talking about something named after to=
ngues. Where would I put a type one or two noun suffix to modify {jatmey}, =
when reverting to the KLI publication that goes by that name?)<br></blockqu=
ote><div><br></div><div>I would consider {jatmey} to be lexicalised as a na=
me, like {qepHom'a'} for the name of the event in=C2=A0Saarbr=C3=BC=
cken. However, as {-na'} is type 3 and {-mey} is type 2, there isn'=
t any problem with {jatmeyna'}. As for an intervening type 1 suffix, I =
can't think of any context in which it would make sense to say {jat'=
;a'mey} or {jatHommey} or {jatoymey}, in reference to the publication n=
amed {jatmey}.</div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature">De'vID</div></div></div>
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