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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] If only we could use twice to say..
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Will Martin)
Tue Mar 19 18:59:01 2019
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From: Will Martin <willmartin2@mac.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 18:58:55 -0400
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The core issue here is whether or not being beautiful is numerically measura=
ble. Even the canon example of paying an unspecified amount implies that whe=
n you do the actual math, you=E2=80=99ll be using numbers.=20
I=E2=80=99d just say {vIghro=E2=80=99lIj=E2=80=99e=E2=80=99, qaqchu=E2=80=99=
vIghro=E2=80=99wIj.}
Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:45 PM, Daniel Dadap <daniel@dadap.net> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 15:42, Alan Anderson <qunchuy@alcaco.net> wrote:
>>=20
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Daniel Dadap <daniel@dadap.net> wrote:
>>=20
>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 15:02, Jeffrey Clark <jmclark85@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I was following the example from Klingon Monopoly regarding Praxis Ener=
gy.
>>>=20
>>> Ah, okay. What=E2=80=99s the example?
>>=20
>>=20
>> {...loSlogh boq'egh mI' naghmey mI'...}
>>=20
>> The example has a number (a noun) as the subject. {'IH}, a verb, doesn=E2=
=80=99t work in the pattern.
>=20
> That makes sense. I was wondering if MKE gave us an example of {boq'egh} w=
ith something totally non-numeric, and it seems it didn=E2=80=99t, either he=
re or with {qav'ap} as {mIp'av} pointed out.
>=20
> I wouldn=E2=80=99t expect anybody to accept these, but if we wanted to get=
=E2=80=9Ccreative=E2=80=9D, possibly one or both of these might make sense:=
>=20
> {wa'vatlh vatlhvI'mo' vIghro'wIj 'IH law' vIghro' motlh 'IH puS}
> {'IHqu' vIghro'wIj; cha'logh boq'egh vIghro' motlh; chen vIghro'wIj.}
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">The core issue here is whether or not being=
beautiful is numerically measurable. Even the canon example of paying an un=
specified amount implies that when you do the actual math, you=E2=80=99ll be=
using numbers. <div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99d just say {vIghro=E2=80=99=
lIj=E2=80=99e=E2=80=99, qaqchu=E2=80=99 vIghro=E2=80=99wIj.}</div><div><br><=
br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br>On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:45 PM, Daniel Dadap <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:daniel@dadap.net">daniel@dadap.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote=
type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D=
"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mar 19, 2019, at 15:42, Alan Anderson <<a href=3D"=
mailto:qunchuy@alcaco.net">qunchuy@alcaco.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" c=
ontent=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"b=
ackground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">On Mar 19, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Danie=
l Dadap <<a href=3D"mailto:daniel@dadap.net">daniel@dadap.net</a>> wro=
te:<br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div preoffsettop=3D"39"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite" preoffsettop=3D"39"><font color=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"caret=
-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">On Mar 19, 2=
019, at 15:02, Jeffrey Clark <<a href=3D"mailto:jmclark85@gmail.com">jmcl=
ark85@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></blockquote></div></div><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div preoffsettop=3D"39"><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite" preoffsettop=3D"91"><font color=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"caret-=
color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I was follow=
ing the example from Klingon Monopoly regarding Praxis Energy.<br></span></f=
ont></blockquote></div><font color=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"caret-color: r=
gb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br>Ah, okay. What=E2=
=80=99s the example?</span></font></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><d=
iv>{...<span style=3D"text-indent: 24px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 25=
5, 0);">loSlogh boq'egh mI' naghmey mI'...}</span></div><div><span style=3D"=
text-indent: 24px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></d=
iv><div><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The e=
xample has a number (a noun) as the subject. {'IH}, a verb, doesn=E2=80=99t w=
ork in the pattern.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><br><div>That makes=
sense. I was wondering if MKE gave us an example of {boq'egh} with somethin=
g totally non-numeric, and it seems it didn=E2=80=99t, either here or with {=
qav'ap} as {mIp'av} pointed out.</div><div><br></div><div>I wouldn=E2=80=99t=
expect anybody to accept these, but if we wanted to get =E2=80=9Ccreative=E2=
=80=9D, possibly one or both of these might make sense:</div><div><br></div>=
<div>{wa'vatlh vatlhvI'mo' vIghro'wIj 'IH law' vIghro' motlh 'IH puS}</div><=
div>{'IHqu' vIghro'wIj; cha'logh boq'egh vIghro' motlh; chen vIghro'wIj.}</d=
iv></div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>_____=
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