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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] when -laH cripples the -lu'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Mon Mar 18 15:47:38 2019
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On 3/18/2019 3:36 PM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
> charghwI:
> > There might be a better approach to the entire effort.
>
> I wish there was, but what would that be ?
>
> Suppose you wanted to write, a long passage with regards to the
> process of learning a foreign language. Starting from how often one
> should study, how one should study, the things one should avoid, etc..
>
> How would you approach it, without using the -lu' ?
>
> The only choices I can think of, are saying {vay'} and/or {ghojwI'},
> and using them interchangeably. But I would avoid the - lu', if not
> for any other reason, at least in order to avoid hitting the
> simultaneous -laH/lu' obstacle.
>
> Would you approach this differently ?
I'd probably use imperatives. If it's a book of instruction, instead of
saying *naDev wot lo'nISlu'*/one needs to use a verb here,/ just say
*naDev wot yIlo'*/use a verb here!/
If, on the other hand, you're writing a scholarly paper on how people go
about learning languages, then I'd pepper my manuscript with
*ghojwI'*/student/, *jatlhwI'*/speaker/, or whoever it is who is
learning. *naDev wot lo' jatlhwI'*/the speaker uses a verb here./ Then
your *-laH* problem doesn't even exist.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/18/2019 3:36 PM, mayqel qunen'oS
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAP7F2c+7wFguLxmvrQcNveC6Ph4SvNc77-kwmKykhFNpyD01kQ@mail.gmail.com">
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">charghwI:</span></div>
<span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">> There
might be a better approach to the entire effort.</span>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">I wish there was, but what would
that be ?</span></font></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">Suppose you wanted to write, a long
passage with regards to the process of learning a foreign
language. Starting from how often one should study, how one
should study, the things one should avoid, etc..</span></font></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">How would you approach it, without
using the -lu' ?</span></font></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">The only choices I can think of,
are saying {vay'} and/or {ghojwI'}, and using them
interchangeably. But I would avoid the - lu', if not for any
other reason, at least in order to avoid hitting the
simultaneous -laH/lu' obstacle.</span></font></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">Would you approach this differently
?</span></font></div>
</blockquote>
<p>I'd probably use imperatives. If it's a book of instruction,
instead of saying <b>naDev wot lo'nISlu'</b><i> one needs to use
a verb here,</i> just say <b>naDev wot yIlo'</b><i> use a verb
here!</i></p>
<p>If, on the other hand, you're writing a scholarly paper on how
people go about learning languages, then I'd pepper my manuscript
with <b>ghojwI'</b><i> student</i>, <b>jatlhwI'</b><i> speaker</i>,
or whoever it is who is learning. <b>naDev wot lo' jatlhwI'</b><i>
the speaker uses a verb here.</i> Then your <b>-laH</b> problem
doesn't even exist.<br>
</p>
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