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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Expressing exterior
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Will Martin)
Thu Mar 14 12:09:36 2019
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From: Will Martin <willmartin2@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 12:09:20 -0400
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Everyone else has answered your question unanimously. No, you can=E2=80=99=
t use that expression and expect people to understand that you mean that =
you are painting the outer surface of your house. Your statement means =
that you are painting the area outside of your house, not in the =
geometric sense but in the spacial sense.
I, for one, wonder why you bother with Hur at all. If I hire someone to =
paint my house, they expect to paint the outside. If I want someone to =
paint the living room, then they expect to paint the interior surfaces =
of that room and not the outside surface of the walls of the living =
room. If I want someone to paint the interior walls, hey, we have a word =
for that: {tlhoy=E2=80=99}, which applies to the interior surfaces of =
exterior walls, as well as all surfaces of interior walls.
We also have the perfectly applicable word {reD}, which you mysteriously =
seem to be averse to using. Do you really intend for them to paint the =
roof as well? That=E2=80=99s at lest as close to being outside the house =
as the walls are.
charghwI=E2=80=99 vaghnerya=E2=80=99ngan
rInpa=E2=80=99 bomnIS be=E2=80=99=E2=80=99a=E2=80=99 pI=E2=80=99.
> On Mar 14, 2019, at 10:13 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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> We have the noun Hur, which is given as "outside".
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> If I wrote, {juH Hur vInguvmoH}, would you understand it as "I paint
> the exterior of the house" ?
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> Now, just a clarification..
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> Because I can *feel* someone ready to hit the "reply" button and
> suggest of using reD, or suggesting any other approach to this
> matter..
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> The question doesn't concern, how to say "I paint the exterior of the
> house"; the question is whether {juH Hur vInguvmoH} could be used to
> express this meaning.
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> ~ changan qIj
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class=3D"">Everyone else has answered your question unanimously. No, you =
can=E2=80=99t use that expression and expect people to understand that =
you mean that you are painting the outer surface of your house. Your =
statement means that you are painting the area outside of your house, =
not in the geometric sense but in the spacial sense.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I, for one, wonder why =
you bother with Hur at all. If I hire someone to paint my house, they =
expect to paint the outside. If I want someone to paint the living room, =
then they expect to paint the interior surfaces of that room and not the =
outside surface of the walls of the living room. If I want someone to =
paint the interior walls, hey, we have a word for that: {tlhoy=E2=80=99}, =
which applies to the interior surfaces of exterior walls, as well as all =
surfaces of interior walls.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
class=3D"">We also have the perfectly applicable word {reD}, which you =
mysteriously seem to be averse to using. Do you really intend for them =
to paint the roof as well? That=E2=80=99s at lest as close to being =
outside the house as the walls are.</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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class=3D"">On Mar 14, 2019, at 10:13 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class=3D"">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">We have the noun Hur, which is given as "outside".<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">If I wrote, {juH Hur vInguvmoH}, would you =
understand it as "I paint<br class=3D"">the exterior of the house" ?<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Now, just a clarification..<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Because I can *feel* someone ready to hit the "reply" button =
and<br class=3D"">suggest of using reD, or suggesting any other approach =
to this<br class=3D"">matter..<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The question =
doesn't concern, how to say "I paint the exterior of the<br =
class=3D"">house"; the question is whether {juH Hur vInguvmoH} could be =
used to<br class=3D"">express this meaning.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">~=
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