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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] -meH with -pu'/-ta'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (nIqolay Q)
Wed Mar 13 13:01:59 2019
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From: nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 13:01:43 -0400
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On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:03 PM SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
> I think trying to put perfective on the purpose clause here is to attempt
> time travel, where my current action causes an already-completed action. If
> you can say *vIghro' vIje'meH Huch vI'anmoHpu'** to buy the cat I
> sacrificed money,* and you apparently can, then what exactly does adding
> perfective to the purpose clause do? Maybe *vIje'ta'meH* means *so that I
> close the deal?*
>
That's how I'd interpret it. If there had been a lot of haggling, or my
credit card kept getting declined, and so I just decided to slam down some
cash to get it over with, I think {vIje'ta'meH} would fit perfectly.
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<div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">I think trying to put perfective on the purpose =
clause here is to
attempt time travel, where my current action causes an
already-completed action. If you can say <b>vIghro' vIje'meH =
Huch
vI'anmoHpu'</b><i> to buy the cat I sacrificed money,</i> a=
nd
you apparently can, then what exactly does adding perfective to
the purpose clause do? Maybe <b>vIje'ta'meH</b> means <i>so t=
hat
I close the deal?</i></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div st=
yle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class=3D"gmail_default">That=
's how I'd interpret it. If there had been a lot of haggling, or my=
credit card kept getting declined, and so I just decided to slam down some=
cash to get it over with, I think {vIje'ta'meH} would fit perfectl=
y. <br></div></div></div></div>
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