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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Grammatical gender of a mixed group
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID)
Tue Mar 12 03:02:07 2019
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 08:01:51 +0100
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Daniel Dadap <daniel@dadap.net> schrieb am Di., 12. M=C3=A4rz 2019, 03:02:
> Is there any evidence in canon of how a group composed of a mixture of
> speech-capable and non-speech-capable members is treated grammatically? A=
s
> a simple example, if somebody asked you =E2=80=9Cpuqpu' paqmey je Dalegh'=
a'?=E2=80=9D would
> you answer (assuming you see all of them):
>
> a) chaH bIH je vIlegh
> b) chaH vIlegh 'ej bIH vIlegh je
> c) chaH vIlegh
> d) bIH vIlegh
>
{DaH mararchuq / mayIntaHvIS / wa' Dol bIH qa''e' porgh'e' je}
"We are now connected, / Spirit and body are one, / Until our time comes."
(paq'batlh)
Elsewhere, {qa'} is pluralised as {qa'pu'}. But it's in a grey area, in
that it may be that {qa' porgh je} is a set expression.
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">Daniel Dadap <<a href=3D"mailto:daniel@dadap.net">d=
aniel@dadap.net</a>> schrieb am Di., 12. M=C3=A4rz 2019, 03:02:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Is there any evidence in canon of how a gro=
up composed of a mixture of speech-capable and non-speech-capable members i=
s treated grammatically? As a simple example, if somebody asked you =E2=80=
=9Cpuqpu' paqmey je Dalegh'a'?=E2=80=9D would you answer (assum=
ing you see all of them):<br>
<br>
a) chaH bIH je vIlegh<br>
b) chaH vIlegh 'ej bIH vIlegh je<br>
c) chaH vIlegh<br>
d) bIH vIlegh<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto">{DaH mararchuq / mayIntaHvIS /=C2=A0wa' Dol bIH qa'=
9;e' porgh'e' je}<br style=3D"">"We are now connected, / S=
pirit=C2=A0and body are one, /=C2=A0Until our time comes." (paq'ba=
tlh)</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Elsewhere, {qa'=
} is pluralised as {qa'pu'}. But it's in a grey area, in that i=
t may be that {qa' porgh je} is a set expression.</div><div dir=3D"auto=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">--=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">De'vID</d=
iv></div>
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