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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Using -ta' during -taHvIS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Will Martin)
Tue Feb 26 15:00:13 2019
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From: Will Martin <willmartin2@mac.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2019 15:00:07 -0500
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Actually, Clipped Klingon was invented to explain the entire spoken =
Klingon and subtitles in ST1, which were done before Okrand was hired to =
invent the Vulcan ceremony in ST2. He invented the Klingon language for =
ST3, making sure that ST1 would still count as accurate spoken Klingon.
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> On Feb 26, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Daniel Dadap <daniel@dadap.net> wrote:
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>> Yes: {qama'pu' jonta' neH}
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>> Oh, of course, the one sentence that literally explains most of the =
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class=3D"">Actually, Clipped Klingon was invented to explain the entire =
spoken Klingon and subtitles in ST1, which were done before Okrand was =
hired to invent the Vulcan ceremony in ST2. He invented the Klingon =
language for ST3, making sure that ST1 would still count as accurate =
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class=3D"">On Feb 26, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Daniel Dadap <<a =
href=3D"mailto:daniel@dadap.net" class=3D"">daniel@dadap.net</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
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border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D"">> This =
sentence didn't appear in Star Trek III, but was something with<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D"">> this =
grammar actually spoken in the movie which forced Okrand to make<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D"">> this =
restriction?<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Yes: {qama'pu' jonta' neH}<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></blockquote><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Oh, of course, the one sentence that literally explains most =
of the weird arbitrary decisions made in =
TKD.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style=3D"caret-color: =
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none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">If that turns =
out to be true (that {qama'pu' jonta' neH} gave us not only Clipped =
Klingon,<span =
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