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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Out of curiosity..
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Thu Feb 21 14:41:53 2019
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Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 14:41:49 -0500
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On 2/21/2019 2:30 PM, SuStel wrote:
> On 2/21/2019 1:13 PM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
>>
>> Often we talk about "what if.." one day it was allowed to write
>> klingon using lower case.
>>
>>
>> Some would like that, and others not.
>>
>>
>> Out of curiosity though.. if we *did* write in lower case, how would
>> we distinguish between the q and Q ?
>>
> You'd have to make a choice. Since *q* sounds much more like a /k/
> than *Q* does, I'd turn *q* into /k/ and leave *Q* alone.
>
Another possibility (not even counting the use of diacritics) would be
to do with *Q* what Klingon does with *gh, tlh, *and *ch:* add an /h/
after the /q./ That way, you're not tempted to make the *q* sound like a
/k./
/Vaj toddujdaj ngehbej Divi'. Nimbus wej wighos; he yinab!
Reh Divi' duj visuv vineh./
/Dopdaq qul yichenmoh qhobdi' ghu'.
Reh suvrup suvwi''a'.
Hagh qohpu' neh heghtahvis suvwi'pu'.
Hivqa' veqlargh./
/Qho'nosdaq paw cha' Divi' beq.
Tlhingan 'avwi' lughom.
Lutlhob, nadevvo' Vas'a'daq majahlah'a'?
Jang 'avwi', lichopbe'chugh ghewmey./
/Tlh: Nuqneh?//
//H: Javmah tat chu'wi' vinehbej.//
//Tlh: Vaghsad deqh hinob! Dah yidil!//
//H: Qay'be'. Titlhap!//
//Tlh: Maj. Ha'! Dah matlhutlh./
/H: Jabwi', Romulus hiq vitlhutlh.//
//Tlh: Jabwi', cha' hivje' tiqem! Tera'ngan motlhbe' soh.//
//H: 'iwlij jachjaj.
Tlh: Reh hivje'lijdaq 'iwghargh datu'jaj./
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/21/2019 2:30 PM, SuStel wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/21/2019 1:13 PM, mayqel qunen'oS
wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Often we
talk about "what if.." one day it was allowed to write klingon
using lower case.</p>
<br>
<p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Some would
like that, and others not.</p>
<br>
<p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Out of
curiosity though.. if we *did* write in lower case, how would
we distinguish between the q and Q ?</p>
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<p>You'd have to make a choice. Since <b>q</b> sounds much more
like a <i>k</i> than <b>Q</b> does, I'd turn <b>q</b> into <i>k</i>
and leave <b>Q</b> alone.</p>
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<p>Another possibility (not even counting the use of diacritics)
would be to do with <b>Q</b> what Klingon does with <b>gh, tlh,
</b>and <b>ch:</b> add an <i>h</i> after the <i>q.</i> That
way, you're not tempted to make the <b>q</b> sound like a <i>k.</i><br>
</p>
<p><i>Vaj toddujdaj ngehbej Divi'. Nimbus wej wighos; he yinab!<br>
Reh Divi' duj visuv vineh.</i></p>
<p><i>Dopdaq qul yichenmoh qhobdi' ghu'.<br>
Reh suvrup suvwi''a'.<br>
Hagh qohpu' neh heghtahvis suvwi'pu'.<br>
Hivqa' veqlargh.</i></p>
<p><i>Qho'nosdaq paw cha' Divi' beq.<br>
Tlhingan 'avwi' lughom.<br>
Lutlhob, nadevvo' Vas'a'daq majahlah'a'?<br>
Jang 'avwi', lichopbe'chugh ghewmey.</i></p>
<p><i>Tlh: Nuqneh?</i><i><br>
</i><i>H: Javmah tat chu'wi' vinehbej.</i><i><br>
</i><i>Tlh: Vaghsad deqh hinob! Dah yidil!</i><i><br>
</i><i>H: Qay'be'. Titlhap!</i><i><br>
</i><i>Tlh: Maj. Ha'! Dah matlhutlh.</i></p>
<p><i>H: Jabwi', Romulus hiq vitlhutlh.</i><i><br>
</i><i>Tlh: Jabwi', cha' hivje' tiqem! Tera'ngan motlhbe' soh.</i><i><br>
</i><i>H: 'iwlij jachjaj.<br>
Tlh: Reh hivje'lijdaq 'iwghargh datu'jaj.</i></p>
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