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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Why not law'wI'pu' ?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeffrey Clark)
Thu Feb 21 14:18:10 2019
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From: Jeffrey Clark <jmclark85@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 14:06:22 -0500
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law=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 could easily be the Klingon term for gestalt beings a=
nd/or entities with a collective consciousness. We don=E2=80=99t have much i=
n the way of common terms for those since they are not something we encounte=
r regularly, but they are decidedly more common in Trek.
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> On Feb 21, 2019, at 13:49, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
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>> On 2/21/2019 1:37 PM, Ed Bailey wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 12:55 PM SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
>>> law' means be many, so law'wI' means one who is many...=20
>>>=20
>> The rigidity of this translation is what makes it nonsensical. For anythi=
ng countable, the meaning of law' makes law'wI' inherently plural. It could b=
e translated as "the many," just as qanwI' can be translated "the old."
>> As a substitute for a mass noun, law'wI' could be translated "much." None=
of which means Klingons actually use the term law'wI', but even if they don=
't, I expect they'd get your meaning.
> Exactly what I said: "yeah, but you get it anyway."
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">law=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 could easily be the=
Klingon term for gestalt beings and/or entities with a collective conscious=
ness. We don=E2=80=99t have much in the way of common terms for those since t=
hey are not something we encounter regularly, but they are decidedly more co=
mmon in Trek.<div><br></div><div>=E2=80=94jevreH<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMail=
Signature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Feb 21, 2019, at 13:49, SuSt=
el <<a href=3D"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> w=
rote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 2/21/2019 1:37 PM, Ed Bailey wrote:<br=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 12:55 PM SuStel <<a href=3D=
"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">sustel@trimboli.name<=
/a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p><b>law'</b> means <i>be many,</i> so <b>law'wI'</b>
means <i>one who is many...</i> </p>
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<div>The rigidity of this translation is what makes it
nonsensical. For anything countable, the meaning of <b>law'</b>&nb=
sp;makes
<b>law'wI'</b> inherently plural. It could be translated as
"the many," just as <b>qanwI'</b> can be translated "the
old."<br>
As a substitute for a mass noun, <b>law'wI'</b> could be
translated "much." None of which means Klingons actually use
the term <b>law'wI'</b>, but even if they don't, I expect
they'd get your meaning.</div>
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</blockquote>
<p>Exactly what I said: "yeah, but you get it anyway."<br>
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