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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] alternate way of asking what is your favorite
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Thu Oct 26 04:20:45 2017
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 18:51:19 -0400
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On 10/25/2017 3:22 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> I really can't think of a reason why this could be wrong..
>
> It is sweet and simple; the answer goes right into the place of {nuq}
> and we're all happy..
>
> ~ nIghma'
>
> On Oct 25, 2017 9:52 PM, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun@gmail.com
> <mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> We know that we can't say {nuq jar DamaS} for "which month you
> prefer ?".
>
> But if we say:
>
> {jar'e' nuq DamaS ?}
> as for a month, which do you prefer ?
>
> Would this be correct ?
>
It is an intolerably vague question. It doesn't mean /Wh//ich month do
you prefer?/ it means /As for months, what do you prefer?/ This doesn't
say that you're looking for a month as an answer to the question; it
just says that months are the topic of the question, and now the speaker
would like your preference on something. In fact, months are specially
set apart from the *nuq,* which is supposed to stand in place of the
answer. Maybe someone would answer*jar tuj vImaS*; maybe someone else
would answer *jarvam /Cheerios/ vImaS 'ach jar vorgh /Raisin Bran
/vImaS.* Someone /could/ interpret it as a query about one's favorite
month, but you'd have to set them up for that understanding through context.
What's wrong with doing it the way Okrand said? *jar DamaSbogh yIngu'*.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/25/2017 3:22 PM, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAP7F2c+1LvUa5kB0p7HFFJZ9g+3gP09yfUbAyHqJXZrLhaS9cg@mail.gmail.com">
<div dir="auto">I really can't think of a reason why this could be
wrong..
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">It is sweet and simple; the answer goes right
into the place of {nuq} and we're all happy..</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">~ nIghma'</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 25, 2017 9:52 PM, "mayqel
qunenoS" <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br
type="attribution">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto">We know that we can't say {nuq jar DamaS}
for "which month you prefer ?".
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">But if we say:</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">{jar'e' nuq DamaS ?}</div>
<div dir="auto">as for a month, which do you prefer ?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Would this be correct ?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p>It is an intolerably vague question. It doesn't mean <i>Wh</i><i>ich
month do you prefer?</i> it means <i>As for months, what do you
prefer?</i> This doesn't say that you're looking for a month as
an answer to the question; it just says that months are the topic
of the question, and now the speaker would like your preference on
something. In fact, months are specially set apart from the <b>nuq,</b>
which is supposed to stand in place of the answer. Maybe someone
would answer<b> jar tuj vImaS</b>; maybe someone else would answer
<b>jarvam <i>Cheerios</i> vImaS 'ach jar vorgh <i>Raisin Bran </i>vImaS.</b>
Someone <i>could</i> interpret it as a query about one's favorite
month, but you'd have to set them up for that understanding
through context.</p>
<p>What's wrong with doing it the way Okrand said? <b>jar DamaSbogh
yIngu'</b>.<br>
</p>
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