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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] law' puS construction with law'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Wed Oct 11 14:56:11 2017
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 12:30:16 -0400
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On 10/11/2017 12:16 PM, nIqolay Q wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 12:10 PM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name
> <mailto:sustel@trimboli.name>> wrote:
>
> I think the difference, which I just suggested in another message,
> is that *vItlh* is more general than *law'**. law' *is only about
> quantity, while *vItlh* is about quantity or size or intensity or
> whatever it is by which you measure a thing. If you measure a big
> quantity, either *law' *or *vItlh* will do, though *vItlh *assumes
> the listener knows you're talking about quantity; if you measure a
> big size, either *tIn *or *vItlh* will do, though *vItlh *assumes
> the listener knows you're talking about size; if you measure a big
> strength, either *HoS* or *vItlh* will do, though *vItlh *assumes
> the listener knows you're talking about strength; and so on.
>
> It seems like *vItlh* has a similar set of meanings as the noun *-'a'*
> suffix.
*-'a'* and *-Hom* don't just mean great in quantity/intensity/etc.; they
usually make the noun into a different thing entirely. *vItlh* doesn't
do that; it just describes a noun.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/11/2017 12:16 PM, nIqolay Q
wrote:<br>
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Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 12:10 PM, SuStel <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<p>I think the difference, which I just suggested in another
message, is that <b>vItlh</b> is more general than <b>law'</b><b>.
law' </b>is only about quantity, while <b>vItlh</b> is
about quantity or size or intensity or whatever it is by
which you measure a thing. If you measure a big quantity,
either <b>law' </b>or <b>vItlh</b> will do, though <b>vItlh
</b>assumes the listener knows you're talking about
quantity; if you measure a big size, either <b>tIn </b>or
<b>vItlh</b> will do, though <b>vItlh </b>assumes the
listener knows you're talking about size; if you measure a
big strength, either <b>HoS</b> or <b>vItlh</b> will do,
though <b>vItlh </b>assumes the listener knows you're
talking about strength; and so on.</p>
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<div>It seems like <b>vItlh</b> has a similar set of meanings as
the noun <b>-'a'</b> suffix.</div>
</blockquote>
<p><b>-'a'</b> and <b>-Hom</b> don't just mean great in
quantity/intensity/etc.; they usually make the noun into a
different thing entirely. <b>vItlh</b> doesn't do that; it just
describes a noun.<br>
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