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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] law' puS construction with law'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (nIqolay Q)
Wed Oct 11 14:51:09 2017
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From: nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 11:13:57 -0400
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On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> If you like to avoid the strange {law' law'}, you might want to consider
> the recently disscovered verb {vItlh}. It was used in a phrase in DSC:
>
> {Heghmey DISIQpu'. 'a DIvI' Hegh vItlh law' Heghmaj vItlh puS.}
> "We have suffered losses but the Federation has suffered far more."
>
What's interesting to me is that one of the first canon sentences for
{vItlh} (from the Smithsonian Air and Space tour app) was a law'-puS
construction: {DoDaj vItlh law' wab Do vItlh puS.} I wonder if it was
coined specifically to avoid using {law'} twice in a row. (Even if that's
true, I don't see why {law' law'} would itself be ungrammatical; maybe it
just didn't fit Okrand's aesthetic sensibilities at the time.)
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On W=
ed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Lieven <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailt=
o:levinius@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">levinius@gmx.de</a>></span> wrote:<=
br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
If you like to avoid the strange {law' law'}, you might want to con=
sider the recently disscovered verb {vItlh}. It was used in a phrase in DSC=
:<br>
<br>
{Heghmey DISIQpu'. 'a DIvI' Hegh vItlh law' Heghmaj vItlh p=
uS.}<br>
"We have suffered losses but the Federation has suffered far more.&quo=
t;<span class=3D"gmail-"></span><br></blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">What's interesting to=
me is that one of the first canon sentences for {vItlh} (from the Smithson=
ian Air and Space tour app) was a law'-puS construction: <span class=3D=
"gmail-im">{DoDaj <span class=3D"gmail-il">vItlh</span> law' wab Do <sp=
an class=3D"gmail-il">vItlh</span> puS.} I wonder if it was coined specific=
ally to avoid using {law'} twice in a row. (Even if that's true, I =
don't see why {law' law'} would itself be ungrammatical; maybe =
it just didn't fit Okrand's aesthetic sensibilities at the time.)<b=
r></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><span class=3D"gmail-im"><br></sp=
an></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><span class=3D"gmail-im"><br></span></d=
iv></div>
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