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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Possessive suffixes on ordinal numbers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Mon Oct 2 04:02:45 2017
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 11:02:41 +0300
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Lieven:
> My quick response would be to put the suffix on the noun
I thought about this possibility, however, as soon as I wrote {DujwIj
wejDIch} I got the *feeling* that the meaning became "my ship third".
But again I don't know.. Perhaps I get this impression being influenced by
greek/english..
However, if we have the canon phrase {qep'a' wejDIchDaq}, then perhaps this
answers the question.
On the other hand, I'm not quite certain this is the same case, since the
{-Daq} needs to necessarily migrate, since it is a type-5 suffix.
On the other hand of the other hand, this canon example shows that ordinal
numbers can take type-5 suffixes; so why not take other suffixes of other
types as well ?
mayqel q
On Oct 2, 2017 10:42, "Lieven" <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
On 2 October 2017 at 09:29, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
> Can someone place possessive suffixes on ordinal numbers ?
>
> For example can someone say {Duj wejDIch} for "my third ship" ?
>
Am 02.10.2017 um 09:34 schrieb De'vID:
> Did you drop a suffix ({-wIj})?
>
I guess he was in doubt where to put it, as that was his question.
My quick response would be to put the suffix on the noun. But the question
is not so bad, because we have canon for {qep'a' wejDIchDaq} So why not
{qep'a' wejDIchwIj}? I'll leave that question open for further discussion.
rIn.
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>On the other hand of the other hand, this canon example shows that ordinal=
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types as well ?</span></font></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><fon=
t face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:13.696px">mayqel q</span></f=
ont></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Oct 2, 2017 10:42, "Lieven" <<a href=3D"mailto:le=
vinius@gmx.de">levinius@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><bloc=
kquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"quoted-text"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
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On 2 October 2017 at 09:29, mayqel qunenoS wrote:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Can someone place possessive suffixes on ordinal numbers ?<br=
>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 For example can someone say {Duj wejDIch} for "my third =
ship" ?<br>
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Am 02.10.2017 um 09:34 schrieb De'vID:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Did you drop a suffix ({-wIj})?<br>
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I guess he was in doubt where to put it, as that was his question.<br>
<br>
My quick response would be to put the suffix on the noun. But the question =
is not so bad, because we have canon for {qep'a' wejDIchDaq} So why=
not {qep'a' wejDIchwIj}? I'll leave that question open for fur=
ther discussion.<br>
<br>
rIn.<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
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>http://www.klingonisch.net</a><br>
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er" target=3D"_blank">http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/<wbr>StarTrekDiscovery<=
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