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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: vung
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Sat Sep 30 05:45:58 2017
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 15:36:44 -0400
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On 9/29/2017 3:20 PM, nIqolay Q wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 3:07 PM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name
> <mailto:sustel@trimboli.name>> wrote:
>
> Yep, it would be convenient. But they're verbs, and that's how the
> language works. Find a way around it.
>
> A phrase like *vungbogh SuS'a'* or *vungbogh muD* /is/ a way around it.
Very good! So does *vungbogh muD* refer to only that section of the
atmosphere that is hurricaning? When one says *SIS muD,* one is not
talking about the part of the atmosphere that is raining as a thing
discrete from the rest. Does only a *SuS'a'* do *vung,* or can an
ordinary *SuS* vung as well? Can the *SuS* do *SIS*?
Just to remind us all...
> It rained a few times during the weekend, so we were put into the
> situation to discuss it.SISSISqu'SIStaHSISchoHAll correct. SISlu',
> altho grammaticlly correct, he didn't particularly like. Someone
> COULD use it but to me it sounds like they skipped science class and
> don't know what the subject is. You can also give it an object and
> say things like the clouds rained down cats and dogs. ...or something
> like that; you get the idea. But when Marc and I went outside and
> drops of water were falling on us, he looked up and simply said "SIS".
Do you think we can say *SuS vung muD*? We can say *pey SIS */it rained
acid/*,* as per the above.**And if we can, can we also still say *vung SuS*?
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/29/2017 3:20 PM, nIqolay Q wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAG84SOvGsMeTv-FPb-pHJMsCNp94ip5HCLQp1-LqcsSjk6tWpg@mail.gmail.com">On
Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 3:07 PM, SuStel <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">sustel@trimboli.name</a>></span>
wrote:<span class=""></span>
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<p>Yep, it would be convenient. But they're verbs, and that's
how the language works. Find a way around it.<br>
</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>A phrase like <b>vungbogh SuS'a'</b> or <b>vungbogh muD</b>
<i>is</i> a way around it.</div>
</blockquote>
<p>Very good! So does <b>vungbogh muD</b> refer to only that
section of the atmosphere that is hurricaning? When one says <b>SIS
muD,</b> one is not talking about the part of the atmosphere
that is raining as a thing discrete from the rest. Does only a <b>SuS'a'</b>
do <b>vung,</b> or can an ordinary <b>SuS</b> vung as well? Can
the <b>SuS</b> do <b>SIS</b>?</p>
<p>Just to remind us all...</p>
<p>
<blockquote type="cite"><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);
font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
2; text-align: left; text-indent: 24px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255); text-decoration-style: initial;
text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important;
float: none;">It rained a few times during the weekend, so we
were put into the situation to discuss it.</span><mark id="2"
style="box-sizing: inherit; background: rgba(187, 51, 51,
0.5); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-weight:
normal; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 16px;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left;
text-indent: 24px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial;">SIS</mark><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);
font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
2; text-align: left; text-indent: 24px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255); text-decoration-style: initial;
text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important;
float: none;"><span> </span></span><mark id="3"
style="box-sizing: inherit; background: rgba(187, 51, 51,
0.5); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-weight:
normal; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 16px;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left;
text-indent: 24px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial;">SISqu'</mark><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);
font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
2; text-align: left; text-indent: 24px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255); text-decoration-style: initial;
text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important;
float: none;"><span> </span></span><mark id="4"
style="box-sizing: inherit; background: rgba(187, 51, 51,
0.5); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-weight:
normal; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 16px;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left;
text-indent: 24px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial;">SIStaH</mark><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);
font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
2; text-align: left; text-indent: 24px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255); text-decoration-style: initial;
text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important;
float: none;"><span> </span></span><mark id="5"
style="box-sizing: inherit; background: rgba(187, 51, 51,
0.5); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-weight:
normal; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 16px;
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left;
text-indent: 24px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial;">SISchoH</mark><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);
font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
2; text-align: left; text-indent: 24px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255); text-decoration-style: initial;
text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important;
float: none;"><span> </span>All correct. <span> </span></span><mark
id="6" style="box-sizing: inherit; background: rgba(187, 51,
51, 0.5); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal;
font-weight: normal; font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size:
16px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left;
text-indent: 24px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial;">SISlu'</mark><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);
font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style:
normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
2; text-align: left; text-indent: 24px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255,
255, 255); text-decoration-style: initial;
text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important;
float: none;">, altho grammaticlly correct, he didn't
particularly like. Someone COULD use it but to me it sounds
like they skipped science class and don't know what the
subject is. You can also give it an object and say things
like the clouds rained down cats and dogs. ...or something
like that; you get the idea. But when Marc and I went outside
and drops of water were falling on us, he looked up and simply
said "</span><mark id="7" style="box-sizing: inherit;
background: rgba(187, 51, 51, 0.5); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: Georgia,
serif; font-size: 16px; font-variant-ligatures: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2;
text-align: left; text-indent: 24px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-style:
initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">SIS</mark><span
style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Georgia, serif;
font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left;
text-indent: 24px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-style:
initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline
!important; float: none;">".</span></blockquote>
Do you think we can say <b>SuS vung muD</b>? We can say <b>pey
SIS </b><i>it rained acid</i><b>,</b> as per the above.<b> </b>And
if we can, can we also still say <b>vung SuS</b>?<br>
</p>
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