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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: vung

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Sat Sep 30 05:25:56 2017

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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 21:10:42 +0300
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SuStel:
> It's not wrong. It's just not using Klingon in its strongest way.

ok, I understand ! thank you for explaining this !

qunnoq



On Sep 29, 2017 21:05, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:

> On 9/29/2017 1:53 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
> I still don't understand..{qay'wI'} for "something that is a problem" is
> wrong ?
>
> qunnoq
>
> On Sep 29, 2017 20:50, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
>
>> On 9/29/2017 1:42 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>>
>> ghunchu'wI':
>> > toH.  =C2=ABqay'wI'=C2=BB DalaDDI', nuq Dayaj?
>>
>> I would understand "something that is a problem". Am I wrong ?
>>
>> *vungwI'** something that hurricanes.*
>>
> No, *qay'wI'* is *something that is a problem.* But you were having
> trouble understanding *vungwI',* so ghunchu'wI' compared it to *qay'wI',*
> which you use all the time.
>
> Personally, I wouldn't use *qay'wI'* as often as you do, and wouldn't at
> all for *hurricane.* I wouldn't say *qay'wI' vIghaj* or *qay'wI' tu'lu';*
> I'd say *qay' vay'.* I WOULD use *qay'wI'* in a sentence like *qay'wI'
> yIngu'** Identify the thing that is a problem.* But once that had been
> identified, I would at most use it as an adjectival verb: *jolvoy' qay'
> vItI'** I fix the problematical transporter ionizer unit.* Klingon likes
> precision.
>
> It's not wrong. It's just not using Klingon in its strongest way.
>
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>SuStel:</span><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font=
-size:13.696px">&gt; It&#39;s not wrong. It&#39;s just not using Klingon in=
 its strongest way.</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">ok, I understand ! thank=
 you for explaining this !</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"fon=
t-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">qunnoq</span></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 29, 2017 21:05, &quo=
t;SuStel&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.=
name</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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   =20
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    <div class=3D"m_-1196743125892669659moz-cite-prefix">On 9/29/2017 1:53 =
PM, mayqel qunenoS
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div dir=3D"auto">I still don&#39;t understand..{qay&#39;wI&#39;} for=
 &quot;something
        that is a problem&quot; is wrong ?
        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">qunnoq</div>
      </div>
      <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 29, 2017 20:50, &quot;SuStel&quot=
; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target=3D"_blank">sustel@trim=
boli.name</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">
          <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
              <div class=3D"m_-1196743125892669659m_7148182487041949593moz-=
cite-prefix">On
                9/29/2017 1:42 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote type=3D"cite">
                <div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;fon=
t-size:13.696px">ghunchu&#39;wI&#39;:</span></div>
                <div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;fon=
t-size:13.696px">&gt;
                    toH.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=ABqay&#39;wI&#39;=C2=BB DalaDDI&#39=
;, nuq Dayaj?</span><br>
                </div>
                <div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;fon=
t-size:13.696px"><br>
                  </span></div>
                <div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;fon=
t-size:13.696px">I
                    would understand &quot;something that is a problem&quot=
;. Am I
                    wrong ?</span></div>
              </blockquote>
              <p><b>vungwI&#39;</b><i> something that hurricanes.</i></p>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>No, <b>qay&#39;wI&#39;</b> is <i>something that is a problem.</i> Bu=
t
      you were having trouble understanding <b>vungwI&#39;,</b> so
      ghunchu&#39;wI&#39; compared it to <b>qay&#39;wI&#39;,</b> which you =
use all the
      time.</p>
    <p>Personally, I wouldn&#39;t use <b>qay&#39;wI&#39;</b> as often as yo=
u do,
      and wouldn&#39;t at all for <i>hurricane.</i> I wouldn&#39;t say <b>q=
ay&#39;wI&#39;
        vIghaj</b> or <b>qay&#39;wI&#39; tu&#39;lu&#39;;</b> I&#39;d say <b=
>qay&#39; vay&#39;.</b>
      I WOULD use <b>qay&#39;wI&#39;</b> in a sentence like <b>qay&#39;wI&#=
39; yIngu&#39;</b><i>
        Identify the thing that is a problem.</i> But once that had been
      identified, I would at most use it as an adjectival verb: <b>jolvoy&#=
39;
        qay&#39; vItI&#39;</b><i> I fix the problematical transporter ioniz=
er
        unit.</i> Klingon likes precision.<br>
    </p>
    <p>It&#39;s not wrong. It&#39;s just not using Klingon in its strongest=
 way.<br>
    </p>
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