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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Hech
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Sat Sep 30 05:06:01 2017
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From: SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:49:29 -0400
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On 9/29/2017 1:43 PM, nIqolay Q wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:32 PM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name
> <mailto:sustel@trimboli.name>> wrote:
>
> A clipped form of something long that just /happens/ to exactly
> resemble something shorter that is the Englishy way you want to
> say it anyway is just a /little/ too convenient for my tastes.
>
> You have a good point about being too Englishy, and it's good to keep
> in mind. But on the other hand, it's not like English is the only
> language that shortens things, and using *Hech *with a noun object
> that represents some sort of intended outcome doesn't seem to me to
> stretch the basic idea of the verb so much that a Klingon would only
> consider it after too much exposure to *DIvI' Hol*.
No, it doesn't seem like a huge stretch, and if that's how it works,
then that's fine. I'm just saying let's not go down the
clipping-to-make-it-work-like-English-because-that's-easier route, which
we have wrestled with before on this list. As I said, my strongest
reaction to the initial question was a mere "I'm not so sure."
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/29/2017 1:43 PM, nIqolay Q wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAG84SOvH++CsSh7OvMDtJNB6fuCJkhK32iaH=eivkOkey0O1DQ@mail.gmail.com">On
Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:32 PM, SuStel <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target="_blank"
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<p>A clipped form of something long that just <i>happens</i>
to exactly resemble something shorter that is the Englishy
way you want to say it anyway is just a <i>little</i> too
convenient for my tastes.<span class="HOEnZb"></span></p>
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<div>You have a good point about being too Englishy, and it's good
to keep in mind. But on the other hand, it's not like English is
the only language that shortens things, and using <b>Hech </b>with
a noun object that represents some sort of intended outcome
doesn't seem to me to stretch the basic idea of the verb so much
that a Klingon would only consider it after too much exposure to
<b>DIvI' Hol</b>.</div>
</blockquote>
<p>No, it doesn't seem like a huge stretch, and if that's how it
works, then that's fine. I'm just saying let's not go down the
clipping-to-make-it-work-like-English-because-that's-easier route,
which we have wrestled with before on this list. As I said, my
strongest reaction to the initial question was a mere "I'm not so
sure."<br>
</p>
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SuStel
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