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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Sao without the {'e'}

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Thu Sep 28 05:00:28 2017

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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:40:40 +0300
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SuStel:
> In addition to the other replies, consider also
> that Qov obviously wanted to include the
> common and classic utterance tlhIngan maH
> in what is supposed to be an important and
> repeated line. It's not just some random
> sentence; it's a slogan.

So, would you say that the following:

{latlh be' vImuSHa. DaSov}
I love another woman. You know it.

Is grammatically wrong and should not be used, or it is grammatically
correct but for the reasons already stated in this thread, the {latlh be'
vImuSHa'. 'e' DaSov} is better ?

mayqel

On Sep 27, 2017 16:27, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:

> On 9/27/2017 4:26 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
> At another thread we accepted the following as being correct:
>
> {tlhIngan maH. taHjaj}
> we are klingons. may it continue.
>
> And the way I understand the above sentence, it goes "may it continue.
> what ? the fact that we are klingons".
>
> Lets assume now that I write the following:
>
> {latlh be' vImuSHa'. 'e' DaSov}
> I love another woman. You know that.
>
> Based on the {tlhIngan maH. taHjaj}, why couldn't I write too:
>
> {latlh be' vImuSHa. DaSov}
> I love another woman. You know it.
>
> And be equally correct ? Do I necessarily need to place the {'e'} before
> the {DaSov} ?
>
> In addition to the other replies, consider also that Qov obviously wanted
> to include the common and classic utterance *tlhIngan maH* in what is
> supposed to be an important and repeated line. It's not just some random
> sentence; it's a slogan.
>
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&gt; sentence; it&#39;s a slogan.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">So, would you say that the following:</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"auto">{latlh be&#39; vImuSHa. DaSov}</div><div dir=3D"aut=
o">I love another woman. You know it.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div=
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atically correct but for the reasons already stated in this thread, the {la=
tlh be&#39; vImuSHa&#39;. &#39;e&#39; DaSov} is better ?</div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">mayqel</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extr=
a"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 27, 2017 16:27, &quot;SuStel&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.name</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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    <div class=3D"m_7965284679918371466moz-cite-prefix">On 9/27/2017 4:26 A=
M, mayqel qunenoS
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div dir=3D"auto">At another thread we accepted the following as
        being correct:
        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">{tlhIngan maH. taHjaj}</div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">we are klingons. may it continue.</div>
        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">And the way I understand the above sentence, it
          goes &quot;may it continue. what ? the fact that we are klingons&=
quot;.</div>
        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">Lets assume now that I write the following:</div>
        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">{latlh be&#39; vImuSHa&#39;. &#39;e&#39; DaSov}</=
div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">I love another woman. You know that.</div>
        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">Based on the {tlhIngan maH. taHjaj}, why
          couldn&#39;t I write too:</div>
        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">{latlh be&#39; vImuSHa. DaSov}</div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">I love another woman. You know it.</div>
        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">And be equally correct ? Do I necessarily need
          to place the {&#39;e&#39;} before the {DaSov} ?</div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>In addition to the other replies, consider also that Qov
      obviously wanted to include the common and classic utterance <b>tlhIn=
gan
        maH</b> in what is supposed to be an important and repeated
      line. It&#39;s not just some random sentence; it&#39;s a slogan.<br>
    </p>
    <pre class=3D"m_7965284679918371466moz-signature" cols=3D"72">--=20
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boli.name" target=3D"_blank">http://trimboli.name</a></pre>
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