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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Marc Okrand talking about DSC (spoilerfree)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Thu Sep 28 05:00:18 2017
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> But only in an informal context, right? You wouldn't, for instance,
> send a report to your superior with your mu'mey ru' in it, right?
If the report is meant to be purely informative, then probably not.
If it's meant to be evocative, then possibly.
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On 9/27/2017 8:30 PM, Felix Malmenbeck wrote:
So far, I believe I've only ever used it when talking about refugees, in th=
e sense that I want all who are currently fleeing to have-successfully-fled=
. I quite like the contrast between -taH and -ta' and find it quite effecti=
ve. Other times I've used something like {Haw'ta'wI'pu' mojjaj Hoch Haw'taH=
wI'pu'.}, but that's less punchy to my mind.
So, I suppose I'd use it when I think the desired effect is worth bending t=
he rules, and otherwise not.
But only in an informal context, right? You wouldn't, for instance, send a =
report to your superior with your mu'mey ru' in it, right?
You wouldn't, for instance, submit a report that said Earnings were down th=
is quarter because reasons. That's an example of a mu' ru'; that's similar =
to the effect of using an aspect suffix and -jaj together.
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<p>> <span style=3D"background-color:white;">But only in an informal con=
text, right? You wouldn't, for instance,<br>
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<p><span style=3D"background-color:white;">> send a report to your super=
ior with your
<strong>mu'mey ru'</strong> in it, right?<br>
</span></p>
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<p><span style=3D"background-color:white;">If the report is meant to be pur=
ely informative, then probably not.<br>
</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"background-color:white;">If it's meant to be evocative, t=
hen possibly.<br>
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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 9/27/2017 8:30 PM, Felix Malmenbeck wrote=
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<p><span style=3D"background-color:white">So far, I believe I've only ever =
used it when talking about refugees, in the sense that I want all who are c=
urrently fleeing to have-successfully-fled. I quite like the contrast betwe=
en -taH and -ta' and find it quite
effective. Other times I've used something like {Haw'ta'wI'pu' mojjaj Hoch=
Haw'taHwI'pu'.}, but that's less punchy to my mind.<br>
</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"background-color:white"><br>
</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"background-color:white">So, I suppose I'd use it when I t=
hink the desired effect is worth bending the rules, and otherwise not.</spa=
n></p>
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<p>But only in an informal context, right? You wouldn't, for instance, send=
a report to your superior with your
<b>mu'mey ru'</b> in it, right?</p>
<p>You wouldn't, for instance, submit a report that said <i>Earnings were d=
own this quarter because reasons.</i> That's an example of<b>
</b>a <b>mu' ru';</b> that's similar to the effect of using an aspect suffi=
x and <b>
-jaj</b> together.<br>
</p>
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