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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] One dog or five cats ?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Sat Sep 23 03:56:55 2017

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Anthony Appleyard
> - I:1
> Human may mean:-
> - N:human
> nen may mean:-
> - V:be_mature/adult=3D
> - N:[growth|maturation|maturity]=3D
> yoH may mean:-
> - V:be_brave

I can't understand how this kind of analysis can be of any help. Just by
reading this, makes me want to smash my phone/computer against the wall.

qunnoq

On Sep 22, 2017 5:11 PM, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:

> That=E2=80=99s why we=E2=80=99ve seen various work-arounds for using two =
qualities with
> one noun.  E.g.
>
>
>
> *SuD 'ach wov*
>
> [(it) is]* SuD* *but* light (is also heard)] KGT
>
> *SuD Dargh 'ej wov*
>
> The tea is *SuD* and light. KGT
>
> *SuDbogh Dargh 'ej wovbogh*
>
> The tea that is *SuD* and light. KGT
>
> (which are all ways to refer to =E2=80=9Clight *SuD*=E2=80=9D, * i.e*. wi=
th a yellowish
> tinge)
>
>
>
> *yoHbogh matlhbogh je SuvwI' Say'moHchu' may' 'Iw*
>
> The blood of battle washes clean the warrior brave and true. (Anthem)
>
>
>
> *romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej HoHbogh nejwI'*
>
> Romulan hunter-killer probe  (KCD)
>
> *Suto=E2=80=99vo=E2=80=99qor botlhDaq pe'vIl joqchu'taH quvbogh 'ej valbo=
gh tIqDu' tIQ*
>
> [*translation unavailable] *PB
>
>
>
> --Voragh
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* SuStel
>
> On 9/22/2017 9:34 AM, Anthony Appleyard wrote:
>
> Sorry; is there a rule against directly:?
>   wa' Human nen yoH
> one brave adult human
>
> So far as we know, we can only use one verb acting adjectivally on a noun
> at a time.
>
> --
>
> SuStel
>
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>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"=
>Anthony Appleyard</span><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-=
serif;font-size:13.696px">&gt; - I:1</span><br style=3D"font-family:sans-se=
rif;font-size:13.696px"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.=
696px">&gt; Human may mean:-</span><br style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font=
-size:13.696px"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">&=
gt; - N:human</span><br style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"=
><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">&gt; nen may mea=
n:-</span><br style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><span sty=
le=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">&gt; - V:be_mature/adult=
=3D</span><br style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><span sty=
le=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">&gt; - N:[growth|maturatio=
n|maturity]</span><wbr style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">=
<span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">=3D</span><br sty=
le=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><span style=3D"font-family=
:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">&gt; yoH may mean:-</span><br style=3D"font=
-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-seri=
f;font-size:13.696px">&gt; - V:be_brave</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span=
 style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">I ca=
n&#39;t understand how this kind of analysis can be of any help. Just by re=
ading this, makes me want to smash my phone/computer against the wall.</spa=
n></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:1=
3.696px"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans=
-serif;font-size:13.696px">qunnoq</span></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 22, 2017 5:11 PM, &quot;Steven Bo=
ozer&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu">sboozer@uchicago.edu=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div bgcolor=3D"white" lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div class=3D"m_7259995871954534645WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">That=E2=80=99s why we=E2=80=99ve seen various work-a=
rounds for using two qualities with one noun.=C2=A0 E.g.
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>SuD &#39;ach wov</b> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[(it) is]<b> SuD</b> <i>but</i> light (is also heard=
)] KGT<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>SuD Dargh &#39;ej wov</b> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">The tea is <b>SuD</b>=
 and light. KGT<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>SuDbogh Dargh &#39;ej wovbogh</b> <u></u><u></u><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">The tea that is <b>Su=
D</b> and light. KGT<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calib=
ri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">(which are all ways to refer to =E2=80=9Clight <b>Su=
D</b>=E2=80=9D, <i>=C2=A0i.e</i>. with a yellowish tinge)<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>yoHbogh matlhbogh je SuvwI&#39; Say&#39;moHchu&#3=
9; may&#39; &#39;Iw</b> <u></u>
<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The blood of battle washes clean the warrior brave a=
nd true. (Anthem)<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>romuluSngan Sambogh &#39;ej HoHbogh nejwI&#39;</b=
> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Romulan hunter-killer=
 probe =C2=A0(KCD)<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:windowtext">Suto=E2=80=99vo=
=E2=80=99qor botlhDaq pe&#39;vIl joqchu&#39;taH quvbogh &#39;ej valbogh tIq=
Du&#39; tIQ</span></b><span style=3D"color:windowtext">
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[<i>translation unavailable] </i>PB<u></u><u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">--Voragh<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:windowtext">=
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,sans-serif;color:windowtext"> SuStel<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 9/22/2017 9:34 AM, Anthony Appleyard wrote:<u></u=
><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sorry; is there a rule against directly:?<br>
=C2=A0 <span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-s=
erif">wa&#39; Human nen yoH</span><br>
one brave adult human<u></u><u></u></p>
</blockquote>
<p>So far as we know, we can only use one verb acting adjectivally on a nou=
n at a time.<u></u><u></u></p>
<pre>-- <u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre>SuStel<u></u><u></u></pre>
<pre><a href=3D"http://trimboli.name" target=3D"_blank">http://trimboli.nam=
e</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
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