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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: Qej
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Tue Sep 19 14:16:41 2017
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 20:38:36 +0300
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And let us not forget the {joq} issue too..
qunnoq
On Sep 19, 2017 8:18 PM, "nIqolay Q" <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
> Am 18.09.2017 um 19:13 schrieb nIqolay Q:> Would it be possible to also
> include *ngIq* on the wishlist?> can be analyzed a little more, but it'd
> still be nice to finally have > clarification.
>
> What exactly is the question?
>
> I have no problem with {ngIq}, but I haven't followed the recent thread
> about it either.
What precisely it means and how it's used. For instance, how to
tell/express the difference between using it to mean "one single X"
(as in *ngIq
tonSaw' lo' 'ej tIqDu' lel* "In one single move, he removed the hearts")
vs. "each X individually one by one" (as in *ngIq nuv luHoH* "they killed
the warriors one by one"), or if there even is a difference at all between
those meanings. Also, what other concepts can it be used to express, what
other contexts it can be used in, does it mean anything if it's on its own
and not part of a noun-noun phrase, etc. Like I said, it's had a lot more
canon examples than *vabDot*, and I suspect that the usage analysis that
various Klingonists have done based on that canon is going to be mostly
correct. But it would still be nice to know more specifically (and
canonically) from the source, rather than trying to backsolve its meaning
from a few sentences.
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<div dir=3D"auto">And let us not forget the {joq} issue too..<div dir=3D"au=
to"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">qunnoq</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 19, 2017 8:18 PM, "nIqolay Q&q=
uot; <<a href=3D"mailto:niqolay0@gmail.com">niqolay0@gmail.com</a>> w=
rote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0=
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v class=3D"quoted-text">On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Lieven <span dir=
=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:levinius@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">levinius@=
gmx.de</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"quoted-text"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex">Am 18.09.2017 um 19:13 schrieb nIqolay Q:> Would it b=
e possible to also include *ngIq* on the wishlist?> can be analyzed a li=
ttle more, but it'd still be nice to finally have > clarification.<b=
r>
<br>
What exactly is the question?<br>
<br>
I have no problem with {ngIq}, but I haven't followed the recent thread=
about it either.</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>What precisely it m=
eans and how it's used. For instance, how to tell/express the differenc=
e between using it to mean "one single X" (as in <b>ngIq <span cl=
ass=3D"m_-1520105848209130167gmail-il">tonSaw</span>' lo' 'ej t=
IqDu' lel</b> "In one single move, he removed the hearts") vs=
. "each X individually one by one" (as in <b><span class=3D"m_-15=
20105848209130167gmail-il">ngIq</span> nuv luHoH</b> "they killed the =
warriors one by one"), or if there even is a difference at all between=
those meanings. Also, what other concepts can it be used to express, what =
other contexts it can be used in, does it mean anything if it's on its =
own and not part of a noun-noun phrase, etc. Like I said, it's had a lo=
t more canon examples than <b>vabDot</b>, and I suspect that the usage anal=
ysis that various Klingonists have done based on that canon is going to be =
mostly correct. But it would still be nice to know more specifically (and c=
anonically) from the source, rather than trying to backsolve its meaning fr=
om a few sentences.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div=
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div></div>
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