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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] tarDIghaD
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ed Bailey)
Thu Sep 14 08:46:26 2017
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From: Ed Bailey <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 10:28:14 -0400
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It made perfect sense to me. The tardigrade isn't strong, so HoS or HoSghaj
don't make sense. It's hardy, which is a different sort of opposite to puj.
Also, you don't have to drop the pronouns. As I read it, they serve here to
keep the focus on the animal.
~mIp'av
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> So we have the following passage:
>
> qaStaHvIS poHvam, chImchu'bogh loghDaq taHlaHtaH tarDIghaD, tera'
> Ha'DIbaHHom pujHa=E2=80=99qu=E2=80=99. pa' chaw' ngoqvam baghHa=E2=80=99m=
eH =E2=80=99oH, De'wI' motlh
> lo'laH. 'ach Do' 'e' ta' neHbe' 'oH.
>
> "Tardigrade =E2=80=94 the hardiest animal on the planet can exist in vacu=
um that
> long! It could crack your password while being there with a generic
> computer, and it's my luck it doesn't want to."
>
> And with regards to this passage..
>
> > tera' Ha'DIbaHHom pujHa=E2=80=99qu=E2=80=99
>
> I don't see a reason of using {pujHa'qu'}. The very meaning of {pujHa'qu'=
}
> is somewhat confusing. The words {HoS}/{HoSghaj} would definitely be
> superior choices.
>
> > pa' chaw' ngoqvam baghHa=E2=80=99meH =E2=80=99oH
>
> The {'oH} is useless
>
> > ach Do' 'e' ta' neHbe' 'oH
>
> Another useless 'oH.
>
> Who wrote this ?
>
> qunnoq
>
> On Sep 13, 2017 1:54 PM, "Felix Malmenbeck" <felixm@kth.se> wrote:
>
> Kaspersky chaw' ngoq chovwI' <https://password.kaspersky.com/klingon/>vaD
> mu'vam lo'lu':
>
>
> qaStaHvIS poHvam, chImchu'bogh loghDaq taHlaHtaH tarDIghaD, tera'
> Ha'DIbaHHom pujHa=E2=80=99qu=E2=80=99. pa' chaw' ngoqvam baghHa=E2=80=99m=
eH =E2=80=99oH, De'wI' motlh
> lo'laH. 'ach Do' 'e' ta' neHbe' 'oH.
>
> "Tardigrade =E2=80=94 the hardiest animal on the planet can exist in vacu=
um that
> long! It could crack your password while being there with a generic
> computer, and it's my luck it doesn't want to."
>
>
> //loghaD
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of
> mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:42
> *To:* tlhingan-hol@kli.org
> *Subject:* Re: [tlhIngan Hol] tarDIghaD
>
> wa' SaD mu' DIghajnISbogh tu'lu', 'a tardigrade Dellu'meH mu' tu'lu'..
>
> ghu'vam Dellu' neHlu'chugh, vaj wa' mu' neH jatlhlu'nIS: wejpuH.
>
> qunnoq
>
> On Sep 13, 2017 1:15 PM, "Lieven" <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> mu'tay'wIj vIqeqtaHvIS, loQ jISIvchoH. qatlh tarDIghaD DelmeH pong
>> wIghaj? mu'vam jInta' 'Iv?
>>
>> --
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>> aka Quvar valer 'utlh
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>It made perfect sense to me. The tardigrade isn't=
strong, so HoS or HoSghaj don't make sense. It's hardy, which is a=
different sort of opposite to puj. Also, you don't have to drop the pr=
onouns. As I read it, they serve here to keep the focus on the animal.<br><=
/div>~mIp'av<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir=3D"ltr">=
<<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.co=
m</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"=
>So we have the following passage:<span class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:17.12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">qaStaHvIS poH=
vam, chImchu'bogh loghDaq taHlaHtaH tarDIghaD, tera' Ha'DIbaHHo=
m pujHa=E2=80=99qu=E2=80=99. pa' chaw' ngoqvam baghHa=E2=80=99meH =
=E2=80=99oH, De'wI' motlh lo'laH.=C2=A0 'ach Do' 'e=
' ta' neHbe' 'oH.</span><br style=3D"font-family:calibri,ar=
ial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:17.12px"><br style=3D"font-family:calibr=
i,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:17.12px"><span style=3D"font-family:=
calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:17.12px;background-color:rgb(2=
55,255,255)">"Tardigrade =E2=80=94 the hardiest animal on the planet c=
an exist in vacuum that long! It could crack your password while being ther=
e with a generic computer, and it's my luck it doesn't want to.&quo=
t;</span><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:calibri,ari=
al,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:17.12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)=
"><br></span></div></span><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:cali=
bri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:17.12px;background-color:rgb(255,2=
55,255)">And with regards to this passage..</span></div><span class=3D""><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:17.12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:17.12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">>=C2=A0</span><s=
pan style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:calibri,arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:17.12px">tera' Ha'DIbaHHom pujHa=E2=80=
=99qu=E2=80=99</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"background-colo=
r:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size=
:17.12px"><br></span></div></span><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"backgrou=
nd-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:17.12px">I don't see a reason of using {pujHa'qu'}. The=
very meaning of {pujHa'qu'} is somewhat confusing. The words {HoS}=
/{HoSghaj} would definitely be superior choices.</span></div><span class=3D=
""><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-=
family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:17.12px"><br></span></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-=
family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:17.12px">> p</span><=
span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:calibri,arial,h=
elvetica,sans-serif;font-size:17.12px">a' chaw' ngoqvam baghHa=E2=
=80=99meH =E2=80=99oH</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"backgrou=
nd-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:17.12px"><br></span></div></span><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"b=
ackground-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:17.12px">The {'oH} is useless</span></div><span class=3D=
""><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-=
family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:17.12px"><br></span></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><=
span style=3D"font-size:17.12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">>=C2=
=A0</span></font><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-fami=
ly:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:17.12px">ach Do' 'e=
' ta' neHbe' 'oH</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=
=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:17.12px"><br></span></div></span><div dir=3D"auto"><spa=
n style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:calibri,arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:17.12px">Another useless 'oH.</span></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-famil=
y:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:17.12px"><br></span></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">Who wrote this ?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">qunnoq</div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 13, 2017 1:54 PM,=
"Felix Malmenbeck" <<a href=3D"mailto:felixm@kth.se" target=
=3D"_blank">felixm@kth.se</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquot=
e class=3D"m_2100360398220555748quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#ff=
ffff;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<p><a href=3D"https://password.kaspersky.com/klingon/" title=3D"Ctrl+Click =
or tap to follow the link" target=3D"_blank">Kaspersky chaw' ngoq chovw=
I'</a>vaD mu'vam lo'lu':<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
qaStaHvIS poHvam, chImchu'bogh loghDaq taHlaHtaH tarDIghaD, tera' H=
a'DIbaHHom pujHa=E2=80=99qu=E2=80=99. pa' chaw' ngoqvam baghHa=
=E2=80=99meH =E2=80=99oH, De'wI' motlh lo'laH.=C2=A0 'ach D=
o' 'e' ta' neHbe' 'oH.<br>
<br>
"Tardigrade =E2=80=94 the hardiest animal on the planet can exist in v=
acuum that long! It could crack your password while being there with a gene=
ric computer, and it's my luck it doesn't want to."<br>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>//loghaD<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(33,33,33)">
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"m_2100360398220555748m_178260404679326799divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"l=
tr"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#0=
00000"><b>From:</b> tlhIngan-Hol <<a href=3D"mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces=
@lists.kli.org" target=3D"_blank">tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kl<wbr>i.org</=
a>> on behalf of mayqel qunenoS <<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com"=
target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:42<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:tlhingan-hol@kli.org" target=3D"_blank">tlhing=
an-hol@kli.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tlhIngan Hol] tarDIghaD</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div><div class=3D"m_2100360398220555748elided-text">
<div>
<div dir=3D"auto">wa' SaD mu' DIghajnISbogh tu'lu', 'a =
tardigrade Dellu'meH mu' tu'lu'..
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">ghu'vam Dellu' neHlu'chugh, vaj wa' mu=
9; neH jatlhlu'nIS: wejpuH.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">qunnoq</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 13, 2017 1:15 PM, "Lieven" <=
<a href=3D"mailto:levinius@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">levinius@gmx.de</a>>=
; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
mu'tay'wIj vIqeqtaHvIS, loQ jISIvchoH. qatlh tarDIghaD DelmeH pong =
wIghaj? mu'vam jInta' 'Iv?<br>
<br>
-- <br>
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