[110798] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Question marks next to nouns
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Thu Aug 31 10:01:11 2017
X-Original-To: tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org
To: tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org
From: SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name>
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 09:42:58 -0400
In-Reply-To: <9e0d853e-9ae1-47ab-2640-13c5878503dc@gmx.de>
Reply-To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--===============4079147466704157340==
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="------------597682F651282EF9223FABE4"
Content-Language: en-US
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------597682F651282EF9223FABE4
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 8/31/2017 7:33 AM, Lieven wrote:
> Am 31.08.2017 um 12:53 schrieb De'vID:
>> In the TKD section on pronunciation, it says that an echo follows {'}
>> if the speaker is excited. That might be what's happening there.
>
> Trust me, I listened to this many times, and it's more than just an
> echo. He definitely says a separated syllable, even with a short
> pause: {'entepray'-'a'}.
>
> He even changes his face, lifting up his eyebrows before saying {'a'}.
> On the other hand, his intonation or tone does not indicate a
> question. So maybe he says "Enterprise. Ah."
If I had to put English words to Klaa's expression and tone in that
moment (I just rewatched it several times), I'd make them "/Enterprise,/
eh?" or "/Enterprise,/ huh?" He's not acting excited or surprised, and
it's not an echo syllable. He's musing. He then pauses, then says *qIrq
Duj 'oH* in a ruminating tone. I'm forced to conclude that he was using
the verb suffix *-'a'* without a verb, meaning something like /is that so?/
--
SuStel
http://trimboli.name
--------------597682F651282EF9223FABE4
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
</head>
<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/31/2017 7:33 AM, Lieven wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:9e0d853e-9ae1-47ab-2640-13c5878503dc@gmx.de">Am
31.08.2017 um 12:53 schrieb De'vID:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;">In the TKD section
on pronunciation, it says that an echo follows {'} if the
speaker is excited. That might be what's happening there.
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Trust me, I listened to this many times, and it's more than just
an echo. He definitely says a separated syllable, even with a
short pause: {'entepray'-'a'}.
<br>
<br>
He even changes his face, lifting up his eyebrows before saying
{'a'}. On the other hand, his intonation or tone does not indicate
a question. So maybe he says "Enterprise. Ah."
</blockquote>
<p>If I had to put English words to Klaa's expression and tone in
that moment (I just rewatched it several times), I'd make them "<i>Enterprise,</i>
eh?" or "<i>Enterprise,</i> huh?" He's not acting excited or
surprised, and it's not an echo syllable. He's musing. He then
pauses, then says <b>qIrq Duj 'oH</b> in a ruminating tone. I'm
forced to conclude that he was using the verb suffix <b>-'a'</b>
without a verb, meaning something like <i>is that so?</i><br>
</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
SuStel
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://trimboli.name">http://trimboli.name</a></pre>
</body>
</html>
--------------597682F651282EF9223FABE4--
--===============4079147466704157340==
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
_______________________________________________
tlhIngan-Hol mailing list
tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org
http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
--===============4079147466704157340==--
