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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] The {-chuqmoH}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Tue Aug 29 09:10:36 2017
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On 8/29/2017 7:54 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> I was wondering whether there is any sense in using the {-chuqmoH},
> and if yes, then how is it to be used ?
>
> For example, lets say we place the {-chuqmoH} on a be-verb. If we
> write {pImchuqmoH} then does this mean "they made each other different" ?
>
> And could we write {romuluSngan DIpImchuqmoH} for "we made the
> romulans different to each other" ?
>
> On the other hand, if we placed the {-chuqmoH} on a verb which takes
> an object, then would the following be correct ?
>
> {romuluSngan DIleghchuqmoH} for "we made the romulans see each other" ?
*-chuq* doesn't allow the use of an object, since the plural subject is
also the verb's object.
*pImchuqmoH* is just fine for /they made each other different./ You can
get a clearer feeling for the effect of *-chuq* + *-moH* with a more
active verb: *HIvchuqmoH */they cause each other to attack./ But you
can't just stick the target of their attacks in the object position,
because this is a reflexive verb. You have to use another sentence. For
example: *HIvchuqmoH; verengan Duj 'oH DoS'e'*/they cause each other to
attack; the target is the Ferengi ship./
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/29/2017 7:54 AM, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAP7F2cLG_qR+7dT6zd-O-VXVFrkBJ35zL7UM+kCD+DGqdj4jnQ@mail.gmail.com">I
was wondering whether there is any sense in using the {-chuqmoH},
and if yes, then how is it to be used ?
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">For example, lets say we place the {-chuqmoH} on a
be-verb. If we write {pImchuqmoH} then does this mean "they made
each other different" ?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">And could we write {romuluSngan DIpImchuqmoH} for
"we made the romulans different to each other" ?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">On the other hand, if we placed the {-chuqmoH} on
a verb which takes an object, then would the following be
correct ?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">{romuluSngan DIleghchuqmoH} for "we made the
romulans see each other" ?</div>
</blockquote>
<p><b>-chuq</b> doesn't allow the use of an object, since the plural
subject is also the verb's object.</p>
<p><b>pImchuqmoH</b> is just fine for <i>they made each other
different.</i> You can get a clearer feeling for the effect of <b>-chuq</b>
+ <b>-moH</b> with a more active verb: <b>HIvchuqmoH </b><i>they
cause each other to attack.</i> But you can't just stick the
target of their attacks in the object position, because this is a
reflexive verb. You have to use another sentence. For example: <b>HIvchuqmoH;
verengan Duj 'oH DoS'e'</b><i> they cause each other to attack;
the target is the Ferengi ship.</i><br>
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