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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Proper use of adverbial {je}

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Tue Aug 15 10:47:18 2017

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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 17:47:15 +0300
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De'vID:
> nuqjatlh? Where does it say the same verb has to be
> repeated twice?

Perhaps I made the wrong choice of words. I meant that according to tkd,
the adverbial {je} comes after a verb and that's it. We have a single verb,
which remains the same (regardless of how many times it has been repeated
in a dialogue/passage), with the subject and/or object possibly changing.

guy 1: qalegh
guy 2: qalegh too

(two guys having seen each other, or guy 2 saying to guy 1 that he saw him
and someone else or others too).

The question which led to this thread, was whether we could have a use of
the adverbial {je}, in this way:

{Su'IH. 'ej Suwoch je}
You are beautiful. And you are also tall.

This is what I meant by writting "two different verbs".

qunnoq

On 15 Aug 2017 5:33 pm, "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:

On 15 August 2017 at 16:26, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> As I understand the adverbial use of {je}, as it is described in tkd, and
as
> nIqolay Q explained, we need to have the same verb, repeated twice.

nuqjatlh? Where does it say the same verb has to be repeated twice?

The example in TKD is {qaleghpu' je}. There's no repetition of {legh}.

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<div dir=3D"auto">De&#39;vID:<div dir=3D"auto">&gt;=C2=A0<span style=3D"fon=
t-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">nuqjatlh? Where does it say the sam=
e verb has to be=C2=A0</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">&gt; repeated twice?</span></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=
=3D"auto">Perhaps I made the wrong choice of words. I meant that according =
to tkd, the adverbial {je} comes after a verb and that&#39;s it. We have a =
single verb, which remains the same (regardless of how many times it has be=
en repeated in a dialogue/passage), with the subject and/or object possibly=
 changing.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto">guy 1: qalegh</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
" dir=3D"auto">guy 2: qalegh too</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"aut=
o"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto">(two guys having seen =
each other, or guy 2 saying to guy 1 that he saw him and someone else or ot=
hers too).</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto">The question which led to this thread, was w=
hether we could have a use of the adverbial {je}, in this way:</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=
=3D"auto">{Su&#39;IH. &#39;ej Suwoch je}</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" di=
r=3D"auto">You are beautiful. And you are also tall.</div><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra" dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto">Th=
is is what I meant by writting &quot;two different verbs&quot;.</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=
=3D"auto">qunnoq</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto=
">On 15 Aug 2017 5:33 pm, &quot;De&#39;vID&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:de.v=
id.jonpin@gmail.com">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attr=
ibution"><blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"quoted-text">On 15 August 2=
017 at 16:26, mayqel qunenoS &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihko=
un@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; As I understand the adverbial use of {je}, as it is described in tkd, =
and as<br>
&gt; nIqolay Q explained, we need to have the same verb, repeated twice.<br=
>
<br>
</div>nuqjatlh? Where does it say the same verb has to be repeated twice?<b=
r>
<br>
The example in TKD is {qaleghpu&#39; je}. There&#39;s no repetition of {leg=
h}.<br>
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