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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: cheH
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Mon Aug 14 14:48:47 2017
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 21:48:43 +0300
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Is the Skybox translation given by 'oqranD himself ?
qunnoq
On 14 Aug 2017 9:44 pm, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
> =E2=80=9CAct against=E2=80=9D comes from SkyBox S26:
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>
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> ngoQvam luchavmeH ghawran maghpu' be'nI'pu'. woQ
> luSuqmeH jIjpu' chaH romuluSngan'e' je.
> To this end, the sisters have acted against Gowron,
> going as far as to work with Romulan factions in
> order to gain power. (S26)
>
>
>
> Okrand otherwise translates {magh} as =E2=80=9Cbetray=E2=80=9D:
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>
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> mumaghpu'
>
> He/she has betrayed me. (KGT)
>
>
>
> wo' Damagh 'ej bIHegh
>
> Die betraying the Empire. (MKE)
>
> qorDu'wIj quvmo' jImaghpu'
>
> The reason of my betrayal was my family honor (PB)
>
>
> FYI there=E2=80=99s also an untranslated example shouted out in ST6 durin=
g the
> attack on Kronos One:
>
>
>
> <numagh>
>
> [They've betrayed us! (untr.)] (ST6?)
>
> --Voragh
>
>
>
> *From:* tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] *On
> Behalf Of *mayqel qunenoS
>
> voragh:
>
> > magh betray, act against (v)
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>
>
> Does {magh} mean "act against' too ? I thought it's only meaning was
> "betray".
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>
> qunnoq
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<div dir=3D"auto">Is the Skybox translation given by 'oqranD himself ?<=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">qunnoq</div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 14 Aug 2017 9:44 pm, &qu=
ot;Steven Boozer" <<a href=3D"mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu">sboozer@=
uchicago.edu</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">
<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div class=3D"m_-5445967191584665303WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=E2=80=9CAct against=E2=80=9D comes f=
rom SkyBox S26:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0 ngoQvam luchavmeH ghawran magh=
pu' be'nI'pu'. woQ<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0luSuqmeH jIjpu' chaH romuluSngan'e' je. <br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0To this end, the sisters have acted against Gowron,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0going as far as to work with Romulan factions in <br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0order to gain power. (S26)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Okrand otherwise translates {magh} as=
=E2=80=9Cbetray=E2=80=9D:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0 mumaghpu'
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0=C2=A0He/she has betrayed me. (=
KGT)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0 wo' Damagh 'ej bIHegh
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0Die betraying the Empire. (MKE)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0 qorDu'wIj quvmo' jImag=
hpu'
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0=C2=A0The reason of my betrayal=
was my family honor (PB)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><br>
FYI there=E2=80=99s also an untranslated example shouted out in ST6 during =
the attack on Kronos One:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0 <numagh>
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0[They've betrayed us! (untr.)] (ST6?)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">--Voragh<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><=
span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">=
tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org"=
target=3D"_blank">tlhingan-hol-bounces@<wbr>lists.kli.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>mayqel qunenoS<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">voragh:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">>=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-famil=
y:"Arial",sans-serif">magh betray, act against=C2=A0 (v)</span><u=
></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif">Does {magh} mean "act against' too ? I thoug=
ht it's only meaning was "betray".</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif">qunnoq</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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