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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Is Star Trek: Discovery a new canon category?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Fri Aug 11 13:16:01 2017
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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 20:15:58 +0300
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Tim Stoffel:
> Maybe you should make an exception for Kahless ;)
Hmm.. Qo'. tlhIngan Hol jatlh Qun'a'na' net jalchugh, vaj mu'meyDaj
vIlajQo'; 'ej yInbej Qun'a'na'vam.. 'a yInbe' qeylIS.
qunnoq
On 11 Aug 2017 7:29 pm, "Tim Stoffel" <tim@lionlamb.us> wrote:
> Maybe you should make an exception for Kahless ;)
>
> In the Na'vi community, we also accept anything from Paul Frommer as
> canon. We also recognize anything on the (One so far) film as canon,
> but we do recognize that the pronunciation of some Na'vi is not
> necessarily correct. There are a very few words created by Na'vi
> language community members (and a few by the actors), that were later
> 'blessed' by Frommer, and are marked as being created by them in the
> lexicon. With the advent of the lexical expansion project though, all
> such community sourced words (and there are a lot of them now) are of
> anonymous contribution, and marked as Frommerian words.
>
> Tim Stoffel
>
> --
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
> Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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> Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Is Star Trek: Discovery a new canon
> category?
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 09:56:17 +0300
>
> Unless a sentence comes from 'oqranD, then it isn't canon.
>
> I don't care if a friend of maltz wrote it, I don't care if the rest
> of the community considers this friend of maltz an expert; I don't
> care if kahless himself said it, if it isn't from 'oqranD it isn't
> canon. Even if God himself wrote it and told me "mayqel this is
> canon", I would not accept it.
>
> Sometime in the past, when I was writing in english and my words
> -according to an expert here-, didn't concern klingon, he wrote:
>
> "The hundreds of people on this list, didn't join in order to read
> your (whatever it was I was writing about)".
>
> So, rephrasing his warm and kind words, I will say that:
>
> "The hundreds of people on this list didn't join in order to learn a
> friend of maltz's klingon; they joined to learn okrandian klingon".
>
> And something else, because there is here an obvious confusion with
> regards to who-is-who..
>
> Expert: Someone who knows everything and is able to provide correct
> and valid answers, in accordance to THE CANON WHICH ONLY OKRAND
> CREATES.
>
> So, unless 'oqranD says that he read/wrote/approved each and every
> klingon sentence and translation of it, I refuse to accept it as
> canon.
>
> qunnoq
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Tim Stoffel:<div dir=3D"auto">>=C2=A0<span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">Maybe you should make an exception=
for Kahless ;)</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=
=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">Hmm.. Qo'. tlhIngan Hol =
jatlh Qun'a'na' net jalchugh, vaj mu'meyDaj vIlajQo'; &=
#39;ej yInbej Qun'a'na'vam.. 'a yInbe' qeylIS.</span></=
div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.69=
6px"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-ser=
if;font-size:13.696px">qunnoq</span></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 Aug 2017 7:29 pm, "Tim Stoffel&qu=
ot; <<a href=3D"mailto:tim@lionlamb.us">tim@lionlamb.us</a>> wrote:<b=
r type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Maybe you should make=
an exception for Kahless ;)<br>
<br>
In the Na'vi community, we also accept anything from Paul Frommer as<br=
>
canon. We also recognize anything on the (One so far) film as canon,<br>
but we do recognize that the pronunciation of some Na'vi is not<br>
necessarily correct. There are a very few words created by Na'vi<br>
language community members (and a few by the actors), that were later<br>
'blessed' by Frommer, and are marked as being created by them in th=
e<br>
lexicon. With the advent of the lexical expansion project though, all<br>
such community sourced words (and there are a lot of them now) are of<br>
anonymous contribution, and marked as Frommerian words.<br>
<br>
Tim Stoffel<br>
<br>
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<br>
<br>
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Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Is Star Trek: Discovery a new canon<br>
category?<br>
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 09:56:17 +0300<br>
<br>
Unless a sentence comes from 'oqranD, then it isn't canon.<br>
<br>
I don't care if a friend of maltz wrote it, I don't care if the res=
t<br>
of the community considers this friend of maltz an expert;=C2=A0=C2=A0I don=
't<br>
care if kahless himself said it, if it isn't from 'oqranD it isn=
9;t<br>
canon. Even if God himself wrote it and told me "mayqel this is<br>
canon", I would not accept it.<br>
<br>
Sometime in the past, when I was writing in english and my words<br>
-according to an expert here-, didn't concern klingon, he wrote:<br>
<br>
"The hundreds of people on this list, didn't join in order to read=
<br>
your (whatever it was I was writing about)".<br>
<br>
So, rephrasing his warm and kind words, I will say that:<br>
<br>
"The hundreds of people on this list didn't join in order to learn=
a<br>
friend of maltz's klingon; they joined to learn okrandian klingon"=
.<br>
<br>
And something else, because there is here an obvious confusion with<br>
regards to who-is-who..<br>
<br>
Expert: Someone who knows everything and is able to provide correct<br>
and valid answers, in accordance to THE CANON WHICH ONLY OKRAND<br>
CREATES.<br>
<br>
So, unless 'oqranD says that he read/wrote/approved each and every<br>
klingon sentence and translation of it, I refuse to accept it as<br>
canon.<br>
<br>
qunnoq<br>
<br>
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