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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] When did you buy the phone which you now use ?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Fri Aug 11 10:28:17 2017

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ok, thanks !

But there is something else, which I need to ask.

SuStel:
> *DaH ghogh HablI''e' Dalo'bogh: ghorgh Daje'?   *

Isn't the object of {Dalo'bogh} the {ghogh HablI''e'} ?

And if it isn't the object (case in which it isn't necessary for it to be
placed right before the {Dalo'bogh}),

instead of {*DaH ghogh HablI''e' Dalo'bogh: ghorgh Daje'?} *could we write
{ghogh HablI''e' DaH Dalo'bogh: ghorgh Daje' ?} ?

qunnoq

On 11 Aug 2017 5:09 pm, "nIqolay Q" <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 9:49 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:

> All of these are indeed wonderful suggestions, but let me ask you
> something.
>
> Is the original sentence {ghorgh DaH ghogh HablI' Dalo'bogh Daje' ?} grammatically
> correct ?
>
> Can we have side by side {ghorgh} and {DaH} ? This has been the source of
> my confusion in the first place.
>

Why not? You're allowed to use adverbials in relative clauses, and {ghorgh}
goes at the beginning of the main sentence. It may or may not be awkward
but I see no reason it would be ungrammatical.

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<div dir=3D"auto">ok, thanks !<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>But there is something else, which I need to ask.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"auto">SuStel:</div><div dir=3D"auto">&gt;=C2=A0<b styl=
e=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">DaH ghogh HablI&#39;&#39;e&=
#39; Dalo&#39;bogh: ghorgh Daje&#39;? =C2=A0=C2=A0</b></div><div dir=3D"aut=
o"><b style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></b></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">Isn&#39;t the object of {Dalo&#39;bogh} the {ghogh HablI&#39=
;&#39;e&#39;} ?<br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">And =
if it isn&#39;t the object (case in which it isn&#39;t necessary for it to =
be placed right before the {Dalo&#39;bogh}),</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">instead of {<b style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-si=
ze:13.696px">DaH ghogh HablI&#39;&#39;e&#39; Dalo&#39;bogh: ghorgh Daje&#39=
;?}=C2=A0</b>could we write {ghogh HablI&#39;&#39;e&#39; DaH Dalo&#39;bogh:=
 ghorgh Daje&#39; ?} ?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">q=
unnoq</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On 11 Aug 2017 5:09 pm, &quot;nIqolay Q&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:niqolay=
0@gmail.com">niqolay0@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blo=
ckquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"quoted-text">On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 9:49 AM=
, mayqel qunenoS <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">All of these are indeed wonderful sugge=
stions, but let me ask you something.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Is the original sentence=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-family:sans-ser=
if;font-size:13.696px">{ghorgh DaH ghogh HablI&#39; Dalo&#39;bogh Daje&#39;=
 ?}=C2=A0</span>grammatically correct ?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">Can we have side by side {ghorgh} and {DaH} ? This has been=
 the source of my confusion in the first place.<br></div></div></blockquote=
><div><br></div></div><div>Why not? You&#39;re allowed to use adverbials in=
 relative clauses, and {ghorgh} goes at the beginning of the main sentence.=
 It may or may not be awkward but I see no reason it would be ungrammatical=
. <br></div></div></div></div>
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