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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] When we "listen to music" what do we use ? {'Ij}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Thu Aug 10 10:28:48 2017
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On 8/10/2017 10:17 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> If we want to say that someone "is listening music", then what do we
> use ? {'Ij} or {Qoy} ? Or both ?
I don't think we know this one either, but Okrand makes a distinction
between the verbs in TKW:
The verb *Qoy* means "hear," not just "listen." One must actually
perceive and understand that which is being said.
This doesn't tell whether one does *Qoy* or *'Ij* to music, but it
implies that one can *'Ij* without actually*Qoy*-ing anything. *'Ij*
seems to be the active attempt to detect sound; *Qoy* is the passive
fact that sound has been detected.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/10/2017 10:17 AM, mayqel qunenoS
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<pre wrap="">If we want to say that someone "is listening music", then what do we
use ? {'Ij} or {Qoy} ? Or both ?</pre>
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<p>I don't think we know this one either, but Okrand makes a
distinction between the verbs in TKW:</p>
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<p>The verb <b>Qoy</b> means "hear," not just "listen." One must
actually perceive and understand that which is being said.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>This doesn't tell whether one does <b>Qoy</b> or <b>'Ij</b> to
music, but it implies that one can <b>'Ij</b> without actually<b>
Qoy</b>-ing anything. <b>'Ij</b> seems to be the active attempt
to detect sound; <b>Qoy</b> is the passive fact that sound has
been detected.<br>
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