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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Reversing the order of {-vo'}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Wed Aug 9 14:56:54 2017
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 21:56:51 +0300
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On 9 Aug 2017 9:26 pm, "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 9, 2017 19:14, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
De'vID:
> {vaS'a'vo' tera'Daq DIvI' ra'ghom qachDaq chegh}
> {tera'Daq DIvI' ra'ghom qachDaq vaS'a'vo' chegh}
> Where is {vaS'a'} located in each sentence?
I have to admit that these sentences confuse me.
However, in the first sentence, I think that the {vaS'a'} is located on
earth,
qatlh 'e' DaQub?
hmm.. perhaps I realize the problem.. I read together the words {vaS'a'vo'
tera'Daq}, independently from the rest of the sentence, translating
erroneously the construction "from the great hall which is on earth".
So, maybe, at this first sentence the subject of {chegh} is at the great
hall, and from there he is returning to the {DIvI' ra'ghom qach}.
while at the second sentence, the {vaS'a} is located at the building of the
federation's ra'ghom.
Initially I wrote this, but later I revised it and wrote:
The {vaS'a'} is located at the subject of the {chegh). The subject of the
{chegh} is returning to earth, to the building of the federation's ra'ghom,
having as his starting point the {vaS'a'}
So, my new answer is that at both of the sentences the {vaS'a'} is located
at the location of the subject of {chegh}, and from there the subject does
the returning.
Would you agree with these new conclusions ?
qunnoq
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On 9 Aug 2017 9:26 pm, "De'vID" <<a href=3D"mail=
to:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type=
=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"q=
uoted-text"><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Aug 9, 2017 19:14, "mayqel qunenoS" <<a href=3D"mailto:=
mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br ty=
pe=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"m_2537330243234690615quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"auto">De'vID:<div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"m_2537330243234690615q=
uoted-text"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.=
696px">> {vaS'a'vo' tera'Daq DIvI' ra'ghom qachD=
aq chegh}</div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:=
13.696px"><div dir=3D"auto">> {tera'Daq DIvI' ra'ghom qachDa=
q vaS'a'vo' chegh}</div></div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-f=
amily:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> Where is {vaS'a'} located=
in each sentence?</div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;f=
ont-size:13.696px"><br></div></div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:s=
ans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><span style=3D"font-size:large">I have to adm=
it that these sentences confuse me.</span><br></div><div dir=3D"auto" style=
=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><span style=3D"font-size:lar=
ge"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font=
-size:13.696px"><span style=3D"font-size:large">However, in the first sente=
nce, I think that the {vaS'a'} is located on earth,=C2=A0</span></d=
iv></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><=
/div><div dir=3D"auto">qatlh 'e' DaQub?</div></div></blockquote></d=
iv></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">hmm.. perhaps =
I realize the problem.. I read together the words {vaS'a'vo' te=
ra'Daq}, independently from the rest of the sentence, translating erron=
eously the construction "from the great hall which is on earth".<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">So, maybe, at this first=
sentence the subject of {chegh} is at the great hall, and from there he is=
returning to the {DIvI' ra'ghom qach}.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"quoted-text"><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote=
class=3D"m_2537330243234690615quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><div=
dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:large">while at the second sentence, the {vaS'a} is loc=
ated at the building of the federation's ra'ghom.</span></div></div=
></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Initially I wrote this,=
but later I revised it and wrote:</div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>The {vaS'a'} is located at the subject of the {chegh). The subject=
of the {chegh} is returning to earth, to the building of the federation=
9;s ra'ghom, having as his starting point the {vaS'a'}</div><di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">So, my new answer is that at bot=
h of the sentences the {vaS'a'} is located at the location of the s=
ubject of {chegh}, and from there the subject does the returning.</div><div=
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Would you agree with these new co=
nclusions ?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">qunnoq</div>=
</div>
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