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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] We got words for a Spiral,
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (nIqolay Q)
Wed Aug 9 14:01:04 2017
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From: nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 14:01:00 -0400
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On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:46 PM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
>
> On 8/9/2017 1:39 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
> maj !
>
> And finally, would you accept {pov Dung}, for the "area above is
> excellent" ?
>
> Yes, with the caveat that if *Hay* typically requires a companion noun,
> maaaaaaaaybe the other "area" nouns do too, but I wouldn't hold anyone to
> it, including myself.
>
It might just be a semantic issue. Other locational nouns seem to either
imply a direction or are used with an implied {naDev}, so something like
{DungDaq} on its own could perhaps be used for "upwards, towards a general
above-area" or "above here". But the notion of "beyond" doesn't really
imply a direction, and it's defined relative to "here" so you'd need to
reference a second point. With the right context you could probably get
away with a lone {Hay}. {HayDaq ngem wIchIq} makes sense to me, for
instance.
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te">On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:46 PM, SuStel <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D=
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<div class=3D"m_-1975540523980884514moz-cite-prefix">On 8/9/2017 1:39 P=
M, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">maj
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<div dir=3D"auto">And finally, would you accept {pov Dung}, for the
"area above is excellent" ?</div>
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</span><p>Yes, with the caveat that if <b>Hay</b> typically requires a
companion noun, maaaaaaaaybe the other "area" nouns do too,=
but I
wouldn't hold anyone to it, including myself.<span class=3D"HOEnZ=
b"></span></p></div></blockquote><div>It might just be a semantic issue. Ot=
her locational nouns seem to either imply a direction or are used with an i=
mplied {naDev}, so something like {DungDaq} on its own could perhaps be use=
d for "upwards, towards a general above-area" or "above here=
". But the notion of "beyond" doesn't really imply a dir=
ection, and it's defined relative to "here" so you'd need=
to reference a second point. With the right context you could probably get=
away with a lone {Hay}. {HayDaq ngem wIchIq} makes sense to me, for instan=
ce.<br></div></div></div></div>
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