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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Reversing the order of {-vo'}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Wed Aug 9 11:40:27 2017
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 18:40:20 +0300
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ok, I understand the change of meaning with regards to the aforementioned
{chegh} example.
But now, lets look at another example..
PK:
*> naDevvo' vaS'a'Daq majaHlaH'a'** can we get to the Great Hall*
*> from here?*
If we wrote instead {vaS'a'Daq naDevvo' majaHlaH'a'}, then would that mean
"can we get to the great hall from here", or "are we able to go away from
here, with the going taking place in the vicinity of the great hall, but in
a direction away from here" ?
qunnoq
On 9 Aug 2017 6:26 pm, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
On 8/9/2017 11:20 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
kli mailing list 1999.07.19:
{tera'vo' Qo'noS vIchegh}
I return to Kronos from Earth
maj..
Could I write instead:
{Qo'noSDaq tera'vo' jIchegh}, with the meaning remaining the same ?
*chegh* is one of those words whose object has a locative sense
<http://klingonska.org/canon/search/?file=1999-07-19b-email.txt&q=chegh>,
as revealed in the very message you're looking at. Therefore, *Qo'noSDaq
jIchegh* means *on Kronos, I return (to someplace unspecified).* The
meaning changes.
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">ok, I understand the change of meaning =
with regards to the aforementioned {chegh} example.</div><div dir=3D"auto">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"auto">But now, lets look at another example..</div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div>PK:<div dir=3D"auto"><b style=3D"font-family=
:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> naDevvo' vaS'a'Daq majaHla=
H'a'</b><i style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">=C2=
=A0can we get to the Great Hall</i></div><div dir=3D"auto"><i style=3D"font=
-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> from here?</i><br></div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">If we wrote ins=
tead {vaS'a'Daq naDevvo' majaHlaH'a'}, then would that =
mean "can we get to the great hall from here", or "are we ab=
le to go away from here, with the going taking place in the vicinity of the=
great hall, but in a direction away from here" ?</span></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">qunnoq</span></div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 9 Aug 2017 6:26=
pm, "SuStel" <<a href=3D"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@=
trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x">
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<div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div class=3D"elided-text">
<div class=3D"m_3907085639120012296moz-cite-prefix">On 8/9/2017 11:20 A=
M, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">kli
mailing list 1999.07.19:
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">{tera'vo' Qo'noS vIchegh}</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">I return to Kronos from Earth</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">maj..</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Could I write instead:</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">{Qo'noSDaq tera'vo' jIchegh}, with the =
meaning
remaining the same ?</div>
</blockquote>
</div><p><b>chegh</b> <a href=3D"http://klingonska.org/canon/search/?fi=
le=3D1999-07-19b-email.txt&q=3Dchegh" target=3D"_blank">is
one of those words whose object has a locative sense</a>, as
revealed in the very message you're looking at. Therefore, <b>Qo&=
#39;noSDaq
jIchegh</b> means <i>on Kronos, I return (to someplace unspecified)=
.</i>
The meaning changes.<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
</font></p><font color=3D"#888888">
<pre class=3D"m_3907085639120012296moz-signature" cols=3D"72">--=20
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