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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Using object prefix with {-vo'}

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Wed Aug 9 11:15:33 2017

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On 8/9/2017 10:57 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> {juH vIjaH} "I go to the house" = correct
> {juHDaq vIjaH} "I go to the house" = correct but redundant
> {juHvo' jIjaH} "I go away from the house" = correct
> {juHvo' vIjaH} "I go away from the house" = awkward and maybe 
> wrong/problematic.

I don't want to overstate the last one. It may be perfectly good. It 
doesn't FEEL particularly bad to me. But when you think carefully about 
what it means, it doesn't seem to add up.

I would be much more inclined to accept *juHvo' vIghoS* as correct but 
redundant, because *ghoS* encompasses both /locative/ and /away/ 
meanings in its object.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/9/2017 10:57 AM, mayqel qunenoS
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAP7F2cKs3qr+1xr55zNmxQeZo0DFqXyhVLn+jDdXjXrs0mLN_g@mail.gmail.com">
      <div dir="auto">{juH vIjaH} "I go to the house" = correct</div>
      <div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">{juHDaq
          vIjaH} "I go to the house" = correct but redundant</span><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">{juHvo'
          jIjaH} "I go away from the house" = correct</span><span
          style="font-family:sans-serif"><br>
        </span></div>
      <div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">{</span><span
          style="font-family:sans-serif">juHvo' vIjaH} "I go away from
          the house" = awkward and maybe wrong/problematic.</span></div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>I don't want to overstate the last one. It may be perfectly good.
      It doesn't FEEL particularly bad to me. But when you think
      carefully about what it means, it doesn't seem to add up.</p>
    <p>I would be much more inclined to accept <b>juHvo' vIghoS</b> as
      correct but redundant, because <b>ghoS</b> encompasses both <i>locative</i>
      and <i>away</i> meanings in its object.<br>
    </p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
SuStel
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