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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] be-verbs used as adjectives and the {-chu'}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Tue Aug 8 12:15:33 2017
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On 8/8/2017 11:59 AM, Steven Boozer wrote:
>
> In Power Klingon {-chu’} is described as a qualifying suffix which
> "indicates action is performed absolutely properly." In other words,
> it’s used on action verbs. Adjectival verbs (which Okrand calls
> “qualities”) are states of being, not actions, e.g. {Doq} “be red”.
> To turn a quality into an action you need to add a suffix, i.e. {-moH}
> “cause” or {-choH} “become”.
>
> {'eychu'bogh chab} doesn’t work because {'ey} “be
> good/delicious/tasty” is also an adjectival verb – even with {-bogh} –
> and doesn’t take {-chu’}.
>
I don't think Okrand was trying to make the distinction between actions
and states here. He chose the word /action/ instead of /verb/ because
he's speaking to the layman. I think *'eychu'bogh chab* is perfectly legal.
There is an instance of *-chu'* on a quality verb in /paq'batlh:/ *qatlh
Sutamchu' tlhIH*/Why are you all silent?/
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/8/2017 11:59 AM, Steven Boozer
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">In
Power Klingon {-chu’} is described as a qualifying suffix
which "indicates action is performed absolutely properly." In
other words, it’s used on action verbs. Adjectival verbs
(which Okrand calls “qualities”) are states of being, not
actions, e.g. {Doq} “be red”. To turn a quality into an
action you need to add a suffix, i.e. {-moH} “cause” or
{-choH} “become”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">{'eychu'bogh
chab} doesn’t work because {'ey} “be good/delicious/tasty” is
also an adjectival verb – even with {-bogh} – and doesn’t take
{-chu’}.</span></p>
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<p>I don't think Okrand was trying to make the distinction between
actions and states here. He chose the word <i>action</i> instead
of <i>verb</i> because he's speaking to the layman. I think <b>'eychu'bogh
chab</b> is perfectly legal.</p>
<p>There is an instance of <b>-chu'</b> on a quality verb in <i>paq'batlh:</i>
<b>qatlh Sutamchu' tlhIH</b><i> Why are you all silent?</i><br>
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