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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] neH after nouns with type 5 suffixes
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (nIqolay Q)
Mon Aug 7 11:32:24 2017
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From: nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 11:32:19 -0400
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On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:56 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dung qo' pawDI' qeylIS qorDu' je ta''e' neH bop bommey.
> > Upon reaching the upper world, no one could speak of anything, but
> > the deeds of Kahless and his kin. (PB)
>
> I can't say I understand the addition of {-'e'} on the {ta'}. Because
> of the {neH}, the meaning is already clear: "no one could speak of
> *anything but* the deeds". Why add {-'e'} on the {ta'} ? To emphasize
> the word deeds ?
To further emphasize the deeds, as opposed to anything else the songs might
have been about.
> The translation doesn't emphasize the "deeds"; it
> emphasizes the "anything but".
{neH} isn't inherently emphatic.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:56 AM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir=3D"ltr"><<=
a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>=
></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">> =
Dung qo' pawDI' qeylIS qorDu' je ta''e' neH bop bom=
mey.<br>
> Upon reaching the upper world, no one could speak of anything, but<br>
> the deeds of Kahless and his kin.=C2=A0 (PB)<br>
<br>
</span>I can't say I understand the addition of {-'e'} on the {=
ta'}. Because<br>
of the {neH}, the meaning is already clear: "no one could speak of<br>
*anything but* the deeds". Why add {-'e'} on the {ta'} ? T=
o emphasize<br>
the word deeds ? </blockquote><div><br></div><div>To further emphasize the =
deeds, as opposed to anything else the songs might have been about.<br></di=
v><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The translation doesn'=
;t emphasize the "deeds"; it<br>
emphasizes the "anything but".</blockquote><div><br>{neH} isn'=
;t inherently emphatic.</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>
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