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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] 'Iv with type 5 noun suffixes
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Aug 7 10:44:30 2017
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From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 14:44:25 +0000
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I know of no examples of {'Iv} taking any suffix, except for:
DevwI' ghaH 'Iv'e'?
(STID (deleted line])
This line was deleted from the final movie, however, so may not count as official (i.e. published) canon.
I checked the paq'batlh and surprisingly could only find a single example of {'Iv} (for those collecting them):
batlh SaqIH
qanra' puqloDpu'
'ej 'Iv ghaH nuvvam'e'
AFAIK the only other example of a question word with any suffix is:
Sojvetlh 'oH nuq'e'
What is that food? (PK)
Note that this is also with {-'e'} and may just be another example of marking the subject of a "to be" sentence rather than permitting the wider use of noun suffixes on question words. OTOH...
(TKD 6.4 p.69): The word for "where?", {nuqDaq}, is actually {nuq} "what?" followed by the suffix {-Daq} "locative" ...
--Voragh
-----Original Message-----
From: On Behalf Of mayqel qunenoS
Can the {'Iv} bear type 5 noun suffixes ? Would the following be correct ?
'Ivmo' bISaQ ?
Because of who/whom did you cry ?
'IvvaD Soj Davutta' ?
For who/whom did you prepare the food ?
'Ivvo' bIqet ?
Away from who/whom do you run ?
'IvDaq vIghro' Danob ?
At who/whom will you give the cat ?
qama' tlhabmoH 'Iv'e' ?
Who (emphatic) released the prisoner ?
(I don't know the difference between who/whom, so I wrote both as possible explanations)
qunnoq
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